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Tankless water heater / shower control

Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39516 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 8:45 pm
Two days ago, I descaled my Noritz tankless water heater, which was a fairly simple process after watching a few YouTube videos. I have the water temperature set to 125°F (it can go up to 130°F).

When I use faucets with separate hot and cold controls, the water consistently stays at 125°F. However, when using the shower (which has a combined hot and cold control), the temperature is usually below 125°F, but that’s not the main issue.

The real problem is that sometimes I get cold water, with almost no hot water, for several minutes at a time. Has anyone experienced something similar, or does anyone have any suggestions on what could be causing this?

I’m considering replacing my shower control and/or head, as it’s over 16 years old. Do these controls wear out over time and potentially cause issues like this?

This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
732 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:20 pm to
I have the same issue and am curious for the answer.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6591 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:30 pm to
I had this issue with my kids shower. I believe it’s a demand issue. The water heater is tasked with producing hot water and when it’s fulfilled it cycles off until it’s needed again. What I did is drilled out the shower head restrictor and allowed a larger volume of water to flow so it no longer cycles the water heater on and off.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40944 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 9:50 pm to
So the water will be flowing hot and the wham....cold water? If my wife decides to do dishes then yes, but otherwise no.
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
39516 posts
Posted on 2/28/25 at 11:49 pm to
I would like it hotter, but I understand that because the way the controls are “mixed” with hot and cold running at the same time, it’s not possible adjust the temperature of the water myself as if I had a separate hot and cold knob.

To answer your question, yes, it will be warm - not as warm as I would like - and then it will go cold for a good period of time. Note, this does not happen on my sinks where I have separate controls. Only on my shower, which leads me to believe there is an issue with my shower control and/or head.
This post was edited on 2/28/25 at 11:53 pm
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5139 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:41 am to
I had a similar on both of my showers with cartridge valves, except mine would cycle off every few seconds, reignite after about a second, over and over again. Kitchen sink didn’t have this problem. I changed the cartridges in both showers and the issue has almost disappeared. The issue was that my unit has a minimum ignition flow of .4 gpm, and I take barely warm showers, so the demand for hot water was teetering on that minimum threshold. I assume the older cartridges were a little less than steady and would dip below the min back and forth enough to cause the unit to shut off and reignite. This issue didn’t happen if I turned the water hotter. Good luck.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3230 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 7:46 am to
If you take the handle off, you should have an adjustment for how much hot is allowed when fully turned. I'm guessing the issue is the shower isn't pulling the minimum to keep the tankless on and heating.
Posted by bamaswallows
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
1194 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 9:04 am to
Had this issue and plumber came by and removed my shower head and cleaned it out - it had some trash in it restricting the flow - once he put it back on it worked flawlessly- cheap and easy fix to try before you go down a rabbit hole
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
732 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Had this issue and plumber came by and removed my shower head and cleaned it out - it had some trash in it restricting the flow - once he put it back on it worked flawlessly- cheap and easy fix to try before you go down a rabbit hole


I just did this, and it fixed my issue. Didn’t even think that the low pressure would be the cause of the heater not kicking on. Perfect sense though.
Posted by LSUDbrous90
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2011
1539 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 1:40 pm to
As others have noted, removing the restrictor in the shower head should do the trick. I had the same issue, removed the restrictor, turned the water heater all that way up and havent had an issue since. As someone else noted I think it is a demand issue where it shuts off the water heater if there isnt enough flow.
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