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We Beat the Dream Team • HBO, Max • Documentary
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:02 am
Didn't see a thread on this.
Decent sports doc.
My biggest takeaway was confirmation that Mike Krzyzewski is a fricking weasel.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:22 am to Fewer Kilometers
Jordan didn’t even play right?
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:39 am to Fewer Kilometers
I mean that wasn’t a typical crop of college guys.
You’re talking:
Grant Hill
Penny Hardaway
Chris Webber
Allan Houston
Jamal Mashburn
All of those guys were NBA all stars within a couple years and went on to be full on stars.
What’s even wilder is had they cut the teams differently you could’ve had Shaq, Alonzo Mourning and Jason Kidd on that practice squad as well.
92-94 College All-Stars
Healthy Penny / Jason Kidd
Allan Houston / Mashburn
Grant Hill
Chris Webber
Shaq / Mourning
Dream Team:
Magic (old)
MJ
Bird (injured) / Pippen
Barkley / Malone
Robinson / Ewing
I’m not saying the college guys win a best of 7, but those are competitive rosters.
Bottom line is a lot of talent came into the NBA around 92-94, that dream team wasn’t healthy and was thin at PG because Magic was old and no one wanted to play with Isiah Thomas.
You’re talking:
Grant Hill
Penny Hardaway
Chris Webber
Allan Houston
Jamal Mashburn
All of those guys were NBA all stars within a couple years and went on to be full on stars.
What’s even wilder is had they cut the teams differently you could’ve had Shaq, Alonzo Mourning and Jason Kidd on that practice squad as well.
92-94 College All-Stars
Healthy Penny / Jason Kidd
Allan Houston / Mashburn
Grant Hill
Chris Webber
Shaq / Mourning
Dream Team:
Magic (old)
MJ
Bird (injured) / Pippen
Barkley / Malone
Robinson / Ewing
I’m not saying the college guys win a best of 7, but those are competitive rosters.
Bottom line is a lot of talent came into the NBA around 92-94, that dream team wasn’t healthy and was thin at PG because Magic was old and no one wanted to play with Isiah Thomas.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/18/25 at 12:32 pm to Fewer Kilometers
They beat the Dream Team because Chuck Daly purposefully set up the rotations to put them at a disadvantage.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:05 pm to UnluckyTiger
quote:He played. Just not the majority of the game. The coach didn’t call time outs, didn’t yell at them, he let it play out.
Jordan didn’t even play right?
Posted on 2/18/25 at 1:24 pm to Fewer Kilometers
God I miss 90’s basketball. RIP.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:05 pm to Honest Tune
Even the casual basketball fan knew everyone on the Dream Team and the college select team. I couldn't even begin to guess who would be on a college select team now.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:08 pm to HoopyD
I'm sure the dream team played golf all day and drank all night playing poker
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:33 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:
We beat the Dream Team

Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:38 pm to tide06
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because Magic was old
He was only 32, he had another issue.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:46 pm to saintsfan22
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He was only 32, he had another issue.
He wasn’t in great shape because he had stepped away from basketball.
He sure as hell wasn’t peak Magic and that’s coming from someone who loved his game.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 3:56 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Chuck threw the game to teach The Dream Team(tm) some humility.
As transparent as glass, but very effective. He was the best overall coach of that era. He wasn't blessed by talent like they had at L.A. or Boston. He didn't have the GOAT fall out of the sky like the Guru of Chicago.
The Bad Boys worked, cheated, fought, bled, scratched for everything because that's who Chuck was. I didn't like the Pistons, Isaiah and Laimbeer particularly, but at their peak, they were able to shave points and still win.
As transparent as glass, but very effective. He was the best overall coach of that era. He wasn't blessed by talent like they had at L.A. or Boston. He didn't have the GOAT fall out of the sky like the Guru of Chicago.
The Bad Boys worked, cheated, fought, bled, scratched for everything because that's who Chuck was. I didn't like the Pistons, Isaiah and Laimbeer particularly, but at their peak, they were able to shave points and still win.
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:00 pm to Wally Sparks
quote:
They beat the Dream Team because Chuck Daly purposefully set up the rotations to put them at a disadvantage.
So?
It's not like they had Patrick Ewing playing PG.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:14 am to GeorgeTheGreek
Watched this last night and loved it. And was gonna start a thread on the MSB about it today.
Coach K comes off as a total douche (shocker).
IMO it was summed up best in that they did actually legit beat the Dream Team, but that Chuck Daly let it happen. So it wasn't that he "threw the game." It was more that I think he saw what was already happening and then didn't do anything to change it because he knew it would be what the team needed to step it up.
I think it was Coach K that sort of crawfished a little when he said something like "Maybe Chuck couldn't have stopped it, but he didn't even try to."
Those kids were playing the best game of their lives that day. We all know that if Michal or Scottie were defending at 100 they could've shut down Bubby Hurley. But that was the point...none of them were playing at 100.
So IMO it was a real game and they really lost to the Select team. It just showed them they needed to step their game up and never underestimate an opponent again. And they didn't. But I find it hard to take away from waht the Select team did because they did actually win. And they all admit that they were all playing too unselfishly and everybody was trying to not step on any egos in that first game. Hell MJ, Magic, Bird, etc. in the doc even all said that the Select team beat the shite out of them. To me that's inarguable that it was a legit loss.
ETA: I really wish you could buy those two scrimmages, along with the one scrimmage discussed in the OG 2012 Dream Team doc where all of the HOFers are going at it back and forth, on DVD. I would love to watch that shite.

Coach K comes off as a total douche (shocker).
IMO it was summed up best in that they did actually legit beat the Dream Team, but that Chuck Daly let it happen. So it wasn't that he "threw the game." It was more that I think he saw what was already happening and then didn't do anything to change it because he knew it would be what the team needed to step it up.
I think it was Coach K that sort of crawfished a little when he said something like "Maybe Chuck couldn't have stopped it, but he didn't even try to."
Those kids were playing the best game of their lives that day. We all know that if Michal or Scottie were defending at 100 they could've shut down Bubby Hurley. But that was the point...none of them were playing at 100.
So IMO it was a real game and they really lost to the Select team. It just showed them they needed to step their game up and never underestimate an opponent again. And they didn't. But I find it hard to take away from waht the Select team did because they did actually win. And they all admit that they were all playing too unselfishly and everybody was trying to not step on any egos in that first game. Hell MJ, Magic, Bird, etc. in the doc even all said that the Select team beat the shite out of them. To me that's inarguable that it was a legit loss.
ETA: I really wish you could buy those two scrimmages, along with the one scrimmage discussed in the OG 2012 Dream Team doc where all of the HOFers are going at it back and forth, on DVD. I would love to watch that shite.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:24 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:26 am to CocomoLSU
100%. That film has to exist somewhere.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:44 am to Fewer Kilometers
Did Jamal tell this story in the Doc?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:50 am to SPEEDY
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Did Jamal tell this story in the Doc?
Yes.
The doc has him telling it and goes all into what he talks about in your video clip.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:52 am
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:58 am to Honest Tune
quote:
90’s basketball
I find it so much harder to give a shite about basketball than back then. Seemed almost like a different sport. Why is that?
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:07 am to Espritdescorps
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find it so much harder to give a shite about basketball than back then. Seemed almost like a different sport. Why is that?
Hard to say, man. Born in 82, so my basketball fandom kicked in big time around 90/91. I was a baseball fanatic, but basketball was soon 1A/1B situation with baseball. Every player on that Dream Team list, college or pro, I could tell you where they played high school, juco, college, who they hated on other teams and vice versa. I studied the players and the game to the point I committed all their statistics to memory and could spout random statistical info within my friend group, and nobody else was doing that. I was highly interested in NBA all the way into the Shaq/Kobe dominant era, gave a lot of teams my attention, went to Hornets’ games in Nola when I lived there…
Then at some point the game of basketball got VERY BORING to me and I can hardly give it any attention. If it weren’t for the MSB on this site, I would hardly get any NBA info. It’s been a solid decade plus since I gave a shite.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:46 am to Honest Tune
Yeah man i was obsessed as a kid.. especially with basketball trading cards. What a great time to be a kid. Great dynamic players too.. like Mugsy Bogues… maybe its just me but there arent many players like that in modern NBA
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