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AfD (Alternative for Germany) is basically identical to MAGA. They are illegal in Europe.

Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:54 pm
Europe outlaws parties identical to MAGA and restricts funding...literally bans their participation in elections, and censors their speech.

It's much more than Trump faces here. They are legally surveyed and prosecuted and removed from ballots

So Trump and MAGA, and you and I, are illegal in Europe, along with our politics and our religion.

Maybe now you understand Vance's Munich speech.

So if your political views are illegal in Europe, how is Russia a greater threat to you?

Explain this to me.


Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
5063 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:56 pm to
I'm on the bus with ya baw
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86406 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:58 pm to
They have a duty to get themselves on ballot however possible - even if push comes to shove.

And the progs would lose handsomely if it were fair elections. There are still some nationalist baws there in the shadows just waiting for that call so I haven’t given up hope they can right the ship.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450296 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:59 pm to
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Europe outlaws parties identical to MAGA


Are they banned? I wasn't aware of this saga until this thread

Funny article from Politico

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Though the proposal to examine a ban on the AfD has little chance of passing, its backers say they are obliged to use all means available under the German constitution to stop a party they believe poses a grave threat to democracy.


quote:

Germany’s constitution, which is designed to prevent a repeat of Nazi rule, allows for bans on political parties that attempt to use democratic means to subvert democracy.


Germany seems to have the same issues with the term "democracy" as many on this board:

This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:01 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:01 pm to
Europe has submitted to the same left wing tyrants whom we battle against, who tried to kill and jail our leader, and when they can, will jail us for silently praying to our God.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:46 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16546 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:04 pm to
Try putting a Trump hat in your office at a F100 company circa 2019 and let me know how that goes for you.

There were companies scanning prospective hires for evidence of them being a MAGA supporter.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125410 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:05 pm to
I love how AfD is considered “far right” but every other party in germany is Centre or left-Centre
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:06 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:08 pm to
Of course. They want to ban our opinions.
It is totally undemocratic.

And don't forget, they limit or prohibit campaign funds to certain parties.

EUROPE is a dystopic, scary place. And they are part of a world wide movement that our left is part of and Putin disdains.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
7438 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:08 pm to
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that attempt to use Free Speech, libertarian means to subvert Tyranny.


FIFY
Posted by AURulz1
Member since May 2022
391 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:11 pm to
They may be a democracy, but we are not, which I assume you already knew. I have been known to be wrong before.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:15 pm to
I understand the distinction between a republic and a democracy. And unfortunately, we are no longer a functional Republic.

Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9653 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:19 pm to
You think elections in Russia are fair and free?
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
24805 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:26 pm to
I was brought up in the 50-60s anti-commie era. Several of our NATO partners seem very close to Soviet Regime we were taught to hate.

Get out of NATO and bring our troops home.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43755 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:29 pm to
Remember baws. It was Germany that tried to take over the world and killed 7M Jews in WW2, not Russia or China.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:30 pm to
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You think elections in Russia are fair and free?


I don't think they are totally fair and free here, and certainly not in Europe.

My President, could never be elected in Europe
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24525 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:43 pm to
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Remember baws. It was Germany that tried to take over the world and killed 7M Jews in WW2, not Russia or China.


Sorry but Mao and Stalin killed way more people than Hitler ever thought about.

And FDR and his communists supplied both with aid.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:48 pm to
AFD is better than the alternative, by a lot, and we should absolutely support them, but they’re still led by a lesbian who’s married to a Sri Lankan woman.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:49 pm to
The communists are now in Europe and Washington, not Moscow.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:51 pm to
Pretty sure AfD was just in a major debate in Germany…? I think what they censored was when AfD in the past used carbon copy Nazi slogans.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6075 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:51 pm to
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AFD is better than the alternative, by a lot, and we should absolutely support them, but they’re still led by a lesbian who’s married to a Sri Lankan woman


OK. Thanks for letting me know.
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