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Trail Camera ban on LA WMA's

Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:14 am
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:14 am
Looking through the Notice of Intents from LDWF there will be a ban on trail cameras for all WMA's. Haven't seen this discussed yet.

Everyone has their own opinions, but just putting this out there that this is probably the most monumental change to public land hunting in LA that I can remember. All I would like to know is what is the actual reason? Public land regs are vastly different from private land in this state.

Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
16713 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:20 am to

They get stolen anyway. Maybe agents are spending too much time investigating thefts.
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:24 am to
Mine don't.
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
649 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:27 am to
Agents are tired of people calling in and complaining that their cameras got stolen.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85077 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:27 am to
the 2 reasons they listed were :

- hunters "claiming" areas where they put cameras, thus causing disputes

- theft

Which is ridiculous justification to ban cameras. Its public land. If I leave a camera out, I know that there is a risk that they will be stolen or messed with. I had someone steal a SIM card out of my camera this year. It happens.

As far as marking your "spot", again, its a ridiculous justification, as hunters should understand that it is, once again, public land and simply putting a camera out does not claim a spot. I've had guys check my SIM, see the pics, and then kill a buck and pose in front of my camera before. Was I annoyed? Absolutely. But again, its part of public land.

I'll probably still put mine out. I put mine on trails in the middle of thickets most of the time anyways. If someone finds it and takes, so bet it.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12138 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:32 am to
quote:

I've had guys check my SIM, see the pics, and then kill a buck and pose in front of my camera before.


for real dude? Cmon
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17851 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:32 am to
You’re approaching it with more maturity than the majority of hunters, public or private. Nothing makes grown men act like children faster than a 3am black and white pic of a 125” buck. Completely understand why the state agency doesn’t want to deal with it.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85077 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Agents are tired of people calling in and complaining that their cameras got stolen.


Put out a notice that they will not or cannot investigate trail camera theft.

Also I don't think theft is the main justification, considering most people use cell cams these days and there really is no point in stealing the camera.

I think most people just complain about too many cameras in the woods.

I use it as part of scouting. Lots of trail cameras mean heavy pressure. Abandon area.

This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by cdhorn28
Member since Sep 2016
692 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:16 am to
It's going to be pretty tough to enforce not putting out a trail camera.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85077 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:20 am to
I doubt enforcement will be that strict. I imagine this is mostly to keep people from calling them.

I hope, at least.
Posted by cdhorn28
Member since Sep 2016
692 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:21 am to
Yeah, you're right, that makes sense
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5410 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:39 am to
People 100% use them to claim an area. I can’t leave my stand up all year or my decoys out. It’s personal property left unattended.
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
17951 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:56 am to
quote:

I've had guys check my SIM, see the pics, and then kill a buck and pose in front of my camera before.


Every person that's fortunate enough to have private land nearby to hunt needs to read this and count their blessings. This made me irrationally angry.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23804 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 9:57 am to
quote:

They get stolen anyway. Maybe agents are spending too much time investigating thefts.

I've never had a camera stolen, but I also realize its public land so I put cable locks on all mine so they aren't easy for someone walking by to just grab and go.

I sent in comments to LDWF against the proposed change and asked what their reasoning behind it. This is the response I got:

quote:

Thank you for your comments. Just as an FYI, the reason there was a proposal to ban cameras on WMAs was

1) Some individuals were using them to “claim” hunting spots which causes user conflicts

2) LDWF law enforcement asked for the ban because they feel individuals involved in illegal activities are using them to warn of law enforcement presence


Personally, I think both reasons are kind of bullshite.

1. Regulations still allow you to leave a stand in the woods (as long as its laid on the ground in a non-hunting position when not in use). If hunters are acting like their trail camera reserves a spot, then what do you think they're going to do if they leave a stand in the woods and someone else beats them to that spot?

2. Green jeans barely ever leave the road or parking areas on WMAs, so unless those criminals are leaving their bait piles and cameras in a place where the warden can see it from his truck, that reasoning in BS too.

ETA: if they were worried about people engaging in illegal activities and using trail cams to warn of law enforcement presence in the area, why not just require users to tag their cameras with their name and LDWF license numbers? And make it where LDWF can confiscate untagged cameras. Same tagging rules already exist for stands left out on WMA's
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1460 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I've had guys check my SIM, see the pics, and then kill a buck and pose in front of my camera before.


That’s low down.
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19319 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:38 am to
Never leave a camera or stand out there unlocked. At least make them put some real effort into stealing them. I had a dude steal my trailer off my truck in the parking lot three years ago.

As for this new regulation, it will not be enforced. Unless an agent sees a camera on your atv or in your hands, nothing will happen.

You think green jeans will go marching through the woods to find your camera?
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5410 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:41 am to
quote:

As for this new regulation, it will not be enforced. Unless an agent sees a camera on your atv or in your hands, nothing will happen. You think green jeans will go marching through the woods to find your camera?


No but people will snitch

I would rather a game warden not be walking all over the woods during hunting season honestly
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35230 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 11:47 am to
quote:



They get stolen anyway. Maybe agents are spending too much time investigating thefts.


in mississippi, green jeans and whop head dolly are the ones stealing the cams.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
16713 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

individuals involved in illegal activities are using them to warn of law enforcement presence


So drug dealers & growers.

quote:

why not just require users to tag their cameras with their name and LDWF license numbers? And make it where LDWF can confiscate untagged cameras.


Drug dealers/growers aren't going to follow any of those regulations.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11481 posts
Posted on 2/12/25 at 1:44 pm to
unpopular opinion: Cameras and Corn ruin the hunting experience
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