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Does this at least end the Reid-Belichick debate for good?
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:39 pm
Belichick never lost two Super Bowl by three scores. The greatest there ever was and the greatest there ever will be, William Stephen Belichick.
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Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:42 pm to Bench McElroy
Hear hear!!
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:44 pm to Bench McElroy
"thanks Tom"
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:45 pm to TT9
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"thanks Tom"
“Thanks Patrick”
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:46 pm to Bench McElroy
What debate? Bill had a losing record across 180+ games as a HC without Brady as his starting QB.
Posted on 2/9/25 at 10:51 pm to Bench McElroy
Only one person has ever lost to Eli in a Super Bowl and Bill did it twice
Posted on 2/10/25 at 3:01 am to Henry Jones Jr
Andy Reid has been successful no matter who was playing QB . (McNabb, Kolb , Vick, Alex Smith, Mahomes)
Belichick was only good with Brady.
Belichick was only good with Brady.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 3:31 am to tigerfan84
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Andy Reid has been successful no matter who was playing QB . (McNabb, Kolb , Vick, Alex Smith, Mahomes)
Belichick was only good with Brady.
That's gonna be the forever narrative.
Whether you like it or not. Eagles just had better players across the board. This loss is not remotely in the same stratosphere as 2007 Patriots losing to 10-6 Giants.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:28 am to tigerfan84
quote:Only one of those won him a Super Bowl
Andy Reid has been successful no matter who was playing QB . (McNabb, Kolb , Vick, Alex Smith, Mahomes)
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:31 am to tigerfan84
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Belichick was only good with Brady.
Who was Bill's second best QB he coached as a starter?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:32 am to Henry Jones Jr
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Only one of those won him a Super Bowl
That's a little deceiving though. Reid took the Eagles to the playoffs 9 times, making it to the NFC title game 5 times, and making it to the Suberbowl once.
Belicheck had a losing record post Brady.
Belicheck is the more accomplished coach IMO though. As others have said, Brady was just a piece for the first 3 and football is the ultimate team game. Belicheck put those teams together.
They are both amazing head coaches.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:32 am to Splackavellie
Anybody buying into the “Brady carried Bill” narrative is an idiot
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:41 am to Splackavellie
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Who was Bill's second best QB he coached as a starter?
Does Drew Bledsoe count?
Maybe Bernie Kosar
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:45 am to GoGators1995
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What debate? Bill had a losing record across 180+ games as a HC without Brady as his starting QB.
But he found, played, and developed Brady. It’s not like Brady was born as the GOAT. Bill built teams around his strengths and even when the team wasn’t fully established to help Brady shine, he found ways to win.
Every single great coach has been great because they had a top notch quarterback. That’s is part of being a great coach. It’s not a slight.
Posted on 2/10/25 at 9:51 am to StringedInstruments
First 3 super bowls Brady was a complimentary piece playing with great defenses. Brady never ranked higher than 6th in any major passing stat and he only accomplished this in 2 separate categories, during different seasons one time each during that span.
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:06 am to StringedInstruments
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Every single great coach has been great because they had a top notch quarterback
Joe Gibbs?
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:04 am to Splackavellie
Who was Bill's second best QB he coached as a starter?
1994 went 11-5 with Vinny Testaverde
2008 went 11-5 with Matt Cassels
2021 went 10-7 with Mac Jones
Reid has only won SBs with Mahomes
1994 went 11-5 with Vinny Testaverde
2008 went 11-5 with Matt Cassels
2021 went 10-7 with Mac Jones
Reid has only won SBs with Mahomes
This post was edited on 2/10/25 at 11:06 am
Posted on 2/10/25 at 11:50 am to StringedInstruments
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But he found, played, and developed Brady. It’s not like Brady was born as the GOAT. Bill built teams around his strengths and even when the team wasn’t fully established to help Brady shine, he found ways to win.
Every single great coach has been great because they had a top notch quarterback. That’s is part of being a great coach. It’s not a slight.
Joe Gibbs won 3 SBs with 3 different QBs (none of them are in the HOF).
Posted on 2/10/25 at 12:08 pm to Bench McElroy
Look up Bill’s defensive rankings. Incredible consistency. Worst the patriots ever fared in defense under him was 17th in scoring defense
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