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Saddle Question

Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
525 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:02 pm
Trying to catch the sale before it ends. i am new to saddle hunting by the way.

What size tree tether and linemen belt do you need to get/how do you know what size to get? does it matter on your body size?
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
660 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:15 pm to
Depends on the tree size. I like 12'. 8 is too short for a lot of trees. Body size doesn't matter
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7100 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:51 pm to
Join the “becoming a saddle hunter” thread
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
525 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:07 pm to
Will do. Thanks sir
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
525 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:07 pm to
They got the 8 mm and 11 mm diameter. Idk what diameter has to do with performance of it
Posted by cubsfinger
On The Road
Member since Mar 2017
1831 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:26 pm to
Selection will be better for a Ropeman for the 11mm. I have the 8 and wish I went bigger for this reason alone.
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
525 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:46 pm to
thank you sir. i will invest in the 11 mm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70776 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:48 pm to
I generally like bigger rope for everything except a Prussik.
Posted by Nonc Chu Rouge
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2020
150 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:16 pm to
Saddle hunters are into shaving off weights on everything and the smaller 8mm ropes will weigh less. They’ll all work fine but like someone else said the ascender will be different. I use a 9mm and use the Kong ascender because wildman or ropeman won’t work for the smaller ropes.
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
2360 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:34 pm to
quote:

ropeman won’t work for the smaller ropes.


They do work, but they’re rated for 10mm or larger. I’ve never had my ropeman slip on my 8mm rope, and I’ve put all my weight into it on pretty much every hunt I make. The kong duck is rated down to 8mm though.
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
525 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:46 pm to
I'm looking at a tethrd saddle
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 9:57 pm
Posted by SkintBack
SoLo
Member since Nov 2015
1880 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:51 pm to
For me 40ft of Canyon C-IV (9mm) and a Madrock Safeguard. I choose to rappel down instead of climb.

ETA For a tether I love my XOP Predator 8mm with a Schwabish hitch. I don't run mechanicals on just the tether.
This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7100 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 7:08 am to
I tried out several and liked the Latitude Method 2 the best. That’s what I bought and it’s been on sale.
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
525 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 11:05 am to
nice. i just got the tethrd ultralock. it was on sale and did some research on it. looks like a good fit for me
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
2360 posts
Posted on 2/8/25 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

I tried out several and liked the Latitude Method 2 the best. That’s what I bought and it’s been on sale


Supposedly, latitude isn’t making them anymore. I ordered an arsenal infinity to try next season, and I ordered another method 2 also. I’ve had my current one for 3 seasons, and when I read about them discontinuing it, I ordered the new one. It’s the best saddle I’ve tried, for sure.
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
660 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 10:40 am to
It is more about the device cutting your rope than it slipping. I recommend saddlehunter.com for advice that won't kill you.

Another disturbing trend I am seeing is guys using mechanical ascenders instead of prusik knots on their regular safety harnesses while hunting out of climbers and lock-on's. They are not fall arrest devices. It doesn't take that much for them to cut your tether especially if you are running smaller diameter rope.
Posted by EarlyBird
Member since Jun 2006
4107 posts
Posted on 2/11/25 at 6:12 pm to
quote:

Another disturbing trend I am seeing is guys using mechanical ascenders instead of prusik knots on their regular safety harnesses while hunting out of climbers and lock-on's.


Oooof. Not good.

If you want a lighter rope (8 - 9 mm) because you only want to reduce weight, go with a CT Roll-n-Lock as an ascender. It can handle larger diameter ropes, but goes down to 8mm. One note, it does require an oval carabiner. The Kong Duck may also, but I think they had some issues, but I'm not 100% certain. If rappelling is the goal, the Madrock Safeguard is best for ascending because it is quiet and easy to operate, but is not rated for 8 mm ropes, so 9 mmm is your sweet spot (you do not want to haul in 30+ feet of 10+ mm rope). It can be jumpy when you begin to descend if you have it under tension for extended periods before doing so, but it'll get you out of the tree just fine. If you want the smoothest descent possible go with the Petzl GriGri Plus (8.9 mm+). Smooth as silk descent, but it can be loud when ascending. You can make it quieter with stealth strips or electrical tape on the connection points, but it's also bulky. It also has a fail safe that stops descent in case you panic and grab the handle.

If not rappelling or scared of a few more ounces, I like the JX3 tethers because the stopper ball holds the tether on the tree at height and they hold up to abuse well. They are also a little stiffer than Predator rope, which makes advancing the tether during ascent on pine trees easier. On the flip side, the stopper ball holds the girth hitch well on smooth hardwood trees. As far as length goes, 8 to 10 feet should be beaucoup unless you're hunting redwoods. If you set your tether lower on the tree at height, the tag end can get in the way, but you can always daisy chain it up a little.

The most important aspects to consider on a tether is the devices you'll want to utilize on it and the overall function:

Minimal weight tether only at height - Resc Tech 8mm + CTRNL
More durable tether only at height - Predator 11 mm/JX3 10 mm + Ropeman 1/CTRNL
Tether advanced as you climb (Especially Pines) - JX3 10 mm + Ropeman 1/CTRNL
Climb + Rappel (Pines) - Canyon IV 9mm + Madrock/GriGri Plus
Climb + Rappel (Mostly Hardwoods) - Canyon Elite 9mm + Madrock/GriGri Plus

Also remember that if you plan on using a friction hitch instead of a mechanical device, the hitch cord must be 60 to 80 percent the size of your tether. Smaller cord will tie easier, but may require more wraps and therefore be harder to break, while larger cord will usually grab better, depending on rope type. I like 7mm cord on a 9 mm tether.
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