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Just how bad is Mcmahon? Here's how bad...
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:41 am
Here's some stats for Mcmahon to date during his tenure at LSU:
Overall: 43-47
Overall Road Record: 4-21
Record against Top 25 Teams: 4-13
Overall SEC Record: 12-35
SEC Road Record: 3-22
Double Digit Losses: 31
20+ Point Losses: 8
Average Loss: 12.2 points
Here's how that compares to each of the 4 previous LSU coaches through their 3rd season:
Wade
Overall: 64-30
Overall Road Record: 17-15
Record against Top 25 Teams: 5-9
Overall SEC Record: 36-18
SEC Road Record: 15-12
Double Digit Losses: 11
20+ Point Losses: 3
Average Loss: 8.9 points
Jones
Overall: 61-37
Overall Road Record: 15-18
Record against Top 25 Teams: 4-5
Overall SEC Record: 29-25
SEC Road Record: 12-16
Double Digit Losses: 12
20+ Point Losses: 1
Average Loss: 8.0 points
Johnson
Overall: 49-48
Overall Road Record: 9-22
Record against Top 25 Teams: 0-9
Overall SEC Record: 18-30
SEC Road Record: 8-16
Double Digit Losses: 27
20+ Point Losses: 13
Average Loss: 13.9 points
Brady
Overall: 49-39
Overall Road Record: 6-22
Record against Top 25 Teams: 5-15
Overall SEC Record: 16-30
SEC Road Record: 6-18
Double Digit Losses: 14
20+ Point Losses: 10
Average Loss: 12.4 points
All of these coaches faced difficulties when they first took the HC gig, granted each one was fairly unique circumstances. Wade and Jones were head and shoulders above where Mcmahon is at through their first three years. He is also lagging behind by quite a bit where Johnson and Brady were despite Johnson's terrible stretch from 2009-2011 and Brady's rough first season (granted not his fault). Mcmahon is also the only one out of the 5 to not make the NCAA tournament at least once during his first three years. Was this a lot of work? Yes. Is this a melt? Absolutely. And quite frankly, anyone that truly cares about LSU basketball should be melting that this is the product that we are getting for the price we are paying. I will also continue to update Mcmahon's stats until we are free from this basketball hell.
TL;DR: Mcmahon is the worst head coach that LSU has had in 50 years and the stats prove it
Overall: 43-47
Overall Road Record: 4-21
Record against Top 25 Teams: 4-13
Overall SEC Record: 12-35
SEC Road Record: 3-22
Double Digit Losses: 31
20+ Point Losses: 8
Average Loss: 12.2 points
Here's how that compares to each of the 4 previous LSU coaches through their 3rd season:
Wade
Overall: 64-30
Overall Road Record: 17-15
Record against Top 25 Teams: 5-9
Overall SEC Record: 36-18
SEC Road Record: 15-12
Double Digit Losses: 11
20+ Point Losses: 3
Average Loss: 8.9 points
Jones
Overall: 61-37
Overall Road Record: 15-18
Record against Top 25 Teams: 4-5
Overall SEC Record: 29-25
SEC Road Record: 12-16
Double Digit Losses: 12
20+ Point Losses: 1
Average Loss: 8.0 points
Johnson
Overall: 49-48
Overall Road Record: 9-22
Record against Top 25 Teams: 0-9
Overall SEC Record: 18-30
SEC Road Record: 8-16
Double Digit Losses: 27
20+ Point Losses: 13
Average Loss: 13.9 points
Brady
Overall: 49-39
Overall Road Record: 6-22
Record against Top 25 Teams: 5-15
Overall SEC Record: 16-30
SEC Road Record: 6-18
Double Digit Losses: 14
20+ Point Losses: 10
Average Loss: 12.4 points
All of these coaches faced difficulties when they first took the HC gig, granted each one was fairly unique circumstances. Wade and Jones were head and shoulders above where Mcmahon is at through their first three years. He is also lagging behind by quite a bit where Johnson and Brady were despite Johnson's terrible stretch from 2009-2011 and Brady's rough first season (granted not his fault). Mcmahon is also the only one out of the 5 to not make the NCAA tournament at least once during his first three years. Was this a lot of work? Yes. Is this a melt? Absolutely. And quite frankly, anyone that truly cares about LSU basketball should be melting that this is the product that we are getting for the price we are paying. I will also continue to update Mcmahon's stats until we are free from this basketball hell.
TL;DR: Mcmahon is the worst head coach that LSU has had in 50 years and the stats prove it
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 9:14 am
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:43 am to Aforem7
Okay?
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:47 am to Aforem7
Yes but McMahon had a LSU imposed 1 scholarship ban, so who knows what that player could have been.
Could have been Jalen Cook or Tyrell ward... we'll never know!
Could have been Jalen Cook or Tyrell ward... we'll never know!
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:50 am to Pnels08
quote:
Yes but McMahon had a LSU imposed 1 scholarship ban, so who knows what that player could have been.
Could have been Jalen Cook or Tyrell ward... we'll never know!
Yeah. Who knows? Maybe if we had that extra scholarship, he could be on par with *checks notes*....Trent Johnson
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:50 am to Aforem7
quote:
Mcmahon is the worst head coach that LSU has had in 50 years and the stats prove it
Seems like there are some stats to prove it was Trent Johnson, but he did get a year 4
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:50 am to Aforem7
LSU will never put the funding necessary into men's basketball to be super competitive. Not in this day and age. NIL has killed LSU men's basketball, IMO.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:50 am to Aforem7
I feel like this could have been summarized with one sentence.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:51 am to JimTiger72
quote:
Seems like there are some stats to prove it was Trent Johnson, but he did get a year 4
Johnson at least made the tournament his first year
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:51 am to JimTiger72
I'd agree, but TJ won the SEC and a tournament game. That kind of jets him past CMM
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:52 am to The Pirate King
quote:
The Pirate King
I knew it was a matter of time before you hopped in here to praise mediocrity
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:53 am to Pnels08
quote:
I'd agree, but TJ won the SEC and a tournament game.
Different era. Inherited a stacked roster that would have all hit the portal after John Brady was fired
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:56 am to JimTiger72
No doubt,
But you could give CMM Marcus Thornton and he'd probably bench him for some 6 year senior who averages 5 ppg and 2 rebs.
But you could give CMM Marcus Thornton and he'd probably bench him for some 6 year senior who averages 5 ppg and 2 rebs.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:00 am to Aforem7
You appear to have gotten your stats from Wikipedia. They are a bit wrong because no one apparently cares enough to update them anymore. McMahon's overall record is now 43-45.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:04 am to Alt26
quote:
You appear to have gotten your stats from Wikipedia. They are a bit wrong because no one apparently cares enough to update them anymore. McMahon's overall record is now 43-45.
You are correct, thanks for correcting me. Guess I learned nothing from my high school teachers
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:06 am to JimTiger72
quote:
Seems like there are some stats to prove it was Trent Johnson, but he did get a year 4
In his first three seasons at LSU Johnson had a (barely) over .500 overall winning %. (49-48). He had a .375 winning % in SEC play. (18-30)
Barring a complete miracle, McMahon is going to be under .500 overall and have a .270 (possibly lower) SEC winning %
McMahon has replaced Johnson as LSU's worst HC in the last 50+ years.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 10:08 am
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:09 am to Alt26
quote:
In his first three seasons at LSU Johnson had a (barely) over .500 overall winning %. (49-48). He had as .375 winning % in SEC play.
& that’s including his 13-3 year in the SEC with a stacked roster year 1. He was much worse than McMahon years 2 & 3
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:09 am to JimTiger72
The NIL didn't kill the lsu mb program Mcloser is the one who as destroyed this program period. The Stats show you that,he is by far the worst coach they've had here in the last 50 years,besides the stats proving that they got dominated and blown out by a mediocre lower half Georgia team! Just unacceptable,and the problem is Fatty Patty Woody will probably not fire him for another 2 years which just sucks!
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:12 am to Aforem7
quote:CoachMc > Wade
Just how bad is Mcmahon? Here's how bad...
Wade lost 33 SEC games in 5 years, CoachMc has already tied him in less than 3 seasons. CoachMc is about record setting pace.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:18 am to drizztiger
quote:
CoachMc > Wade
Wade lost 33 SEC games in 5 years, CoachMc has already tied him in less than 3 seasons. CoachMc is about record setting pace.
Truly a record-breaking coach
Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:33 am to robertgamb
quote:
Woody will probably not fire him for another 2 years
The team has quit mid-season 2 out of 3 seasons. There's no way LSU can keep this guy, even if the administration would have liked to.
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