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WSJ: Tariffs Won’t Sink Canadian Oil Companies

Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:20 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:20 pm
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President Trump has said he could slap 25% tariffs on Canadian imports as soon as Saturday. While that is bad news for Canadian oil producers, it isn’t nearly as bad as it looks.

Canada depends heavily on the U.S. to sell its crude. In 2023, it produced 4.6 million barrels a day, out of which more than 80% ended up in the U.S. But the dependency goes both ways. About 60% of U.S. crude-oil imports are from Canada, in part because U.S. refineries are designed to process the heavy crudes it pumps, not domestic varieties.

Any tariff’s cost will ultimately be shared between Canadian oil producers, U.S. refiners and American consumers. Refiners are most exposed in parts of the country where they have few, if any, alternatives to Canadian crude. These landlocked regions are where most Canadian oil goes: The Midwest received about 62% of Canadian crude-oil imports in 2023, while the Rocky Mountain region got 6.8%, according to the Canada Energy Regulator.


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Refiners located in such places as the Gulf Coast do have access to heavy crude from other countries, but options are limited. While U.S. refiners already source heavy crude from Mexico and Colombia, those sellers don’t have much additional volume to send to the U.S., according to Dylan White, analyst at Wood Mackenzie. Iraq is the biggest available source of incremental heavy crude imports for the U.S., he added.

And even existing alternatives could be at risk. If Trump imposes 25% tariffs on Mexico, it would leave U.S. refiners with fewer cheap heavy crude oil options, according to Menno Hulshof, equity analyst at TD Cowen. And if Dos Bocas Olmeca, the largest refinery in Mexico, ramps up further this year as planned, the country will have fewer spare barrels to export to the U.S., he added. Another small offset: Canadian producers now have more export capacity to Asia after the Trans Mountain pipeline, which connects Canada’s oil to its western coast, was completed last year.


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Canada also has a potential retaliatory trick up its sleeve: curtailing oil production. Even a little bit could go a long way. In early 2019, the Alberta government ordered oil producers to reduce production to narrow the wide discount that Canadian crude was getting compared with the U.S. benchmark. Even with a modest 325,000 barrels a day curtailment, the discount narrowed from about $49 a barrel to $10 a barrel once the curtailments had taken effect, according to TD Cowen’s report.


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Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28310 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:29 pm to
The refineries along the Keystone pipeline, like Kansas City and Wood River, Illinois, are at particular risk.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9967 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:31 pm to
Canada and Mexico aren’t winning a fricking trade war against America.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28310 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:32 pm to
There are no winners
Posted by Rashcock
Lowcountry
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:36 pm to
Imagine reading the Wall Street Journal in 2025. Just paste Loser on your forehead.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

There are no winners


Depends. If American production comes back on line I think we win.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5801 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Canada and Mexico aren’t winning a fricking trade war against America.


On paper sure. In reality the US will more than likely reverse course before the other two nations seek to renegotiate.

The US experienced real CPI inflation for the first time in about 40 years and swept out the incumbent government. We don’t have the stomach for consumer suffering, and other countries aren’t going to keep negotiating with the US if US policy is going to lurch dramatically every 4-8 years.

No, I suspect Canada and Mexico will hold the line, endure and hope to normalize trade President Elect Stephen A. Smith in 2028.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40771 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Depends. If American production comes back on line I think we win.


Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
24596 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:52 pm to
That is not the reason for the tariffs! Put the Canadien oil companies out of business, JEEZ!

WSJ, stopped reading there!
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28881 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Imagine reading the Wall Street Journal in 2025. Just paste Loser on your forehead.


I read lots of stuff, but I’ll consider no longer reading Wall Street Journal because “Rashcock” on Tigerdroppings told me that makes me a loser.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28881 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:53 pm to
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President Elect Stephen A. Smith in 2028.


I want my Idiocracy and I want it now!
This post was edited on 2/2/25 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32507 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 12:56 pm to
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Imagine reading the Wall Street Journal in 2025. Just paste Loser on your forehead.

What does OAN have to say on the subject?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
28881 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:01 pm to
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That is not the reason for the tariffs! Put the Canadien oil companies out of business, JEEZ!


I re-read the article, in case I missed something, but no where in it did I see where the author tried to say that the reasoning President Trump is instituting tariffs is to try to bankrupt Canadian oil companies.

In fact…the why for the tariffs probably didn’t need mentioning because anyone who pays attention should know it’s being done to force Mexico and Canada to take a more active role in policing cartel drug activities within their borders.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12778 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Depends. If American production comes back on line I think we win.

“Comes back online”? We are the largest producer of crude oil in the world.
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
36274 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Canada to take a more active role in policing cartel drug activities within their borders.


I could swear that I read Canada had more issues with drugs going INTO Canada from us, no?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:15 pm to



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Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1347 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:17 pm to
In his first term, Trump re-negotiated a new NAFTA trade deal with Canada and Mexico

now he claims the US has been being ripped off for decades?

i cant follow
Posted by Rashcock
Lowcountry
Member since Sep 2024
305 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64301 posts
Posted on 2/2/25 at 1:25 pm to
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The US experienced real CPI inflation for the first time in about 40 years and swept out the incumbent government. We don’t have the stomach for consumer suffering,


Do you think Mexico and Canada are doing fine? They can afford this even less.
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