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Here is who RFKJr is fighting against

Posted on 1/29/25 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Padro 2
Member since Nov 2024
161 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 6:56 pm
The health insurance companies who are making about a trillion dollars year , 60 % comes from the Pharmaceutical Benefit Managers who are owned by United Healthcare , Cigna Healthcare and CVS . They in turn push higher costs to the patient’s company . As a country we are 40 th in the world for optimum healthcare results. We are F’d and Bobby is getting creamed by the Senate who gets tons from the insurers in campaign donations to keep them in power
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37552 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:01 pm to
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The health insurance companies who are making about a trillion dollars year
Net? Nah!
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22910 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:01 pm to
If RFK is not confirmed, what can POTUS do to appoint him to some kind of administrative role that still has much authority but does not require Senate confirmation?
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18899 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:04 pm to
Recess appointment.

What gets me is that Senators think RFK jr is weird had no problem with “Rachel” Levine.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56426 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:06 pm to
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If RFK is not confirmed, what can POTUS do to appoint him to some kind of administrative role that still has much authority but does not require Senate confirmation?


RFK said he has about 10 years left in the tank to make a difference for America to get heathier

this job is really important to him
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:10 pm to
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If RFK is not confirmed, what can POTUS do to appoint him to some kind of administrative role that still has much authority but does not require Senate confirmation?

I say test the waters on making him a consultant to the WH, then appoint him as a presidential proxy and grant him authority to do things consistent with the president's intent.
Posted by Arktigers
Member since Sep 2022
938 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:11 pm to
One point from my understanding. Introduction of generic branded drugs has inflated cost of other pharmaceuticals. Companies are investing millions in R&D with no guarantee. If they create a winner, they have just a few years to recoup cost and generate a profit before patent expires. Tricks around that but clock is always ticking.
Posted by Padro 2
Member since Nov 2024
161 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:11 pm to
It’s too late in an industry driven by profit . Lots of 400lb people in scooters at the grocery store.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10236 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:17 pm to
I would bet the pharmacies spend more on advertising than on R&D
Posted by Padro 2
Member since Nov 2024
161 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:17 pm to
If you have an hour check this out

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Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6193 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:28 pm to
It would be really sad to see Jr go out the same way his daddy did by the (IMHO) same people that got Sr.

Again, IMHO. 1963 consent decree
Posted by Padro 2
Member since Nov 2024
161 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:41 pm to
Yep , that’s a good number
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
6785 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:47 pm to
Those people are the worst. They can walk their fatasses to the door, but not around the store.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5017 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:55 pm to
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The health insurance companies who are making about a trillion dollars year , 60 % comes from the Pharmaceutical Benefit Managers who are owned by United Healthcare , Cigna Healthcare and CVS .


Are you including how many times they have to eat the cost of doctors who make mistakes, commit fraud, and order unnecessary treatments? All to buy a boat, a big house. or take the wife to an exotic locale? They drive up the cost as much as anything.

Or hospitals that continue to build and build and build and build. Maternity wards that are more like spas and resorts than hospitals.

What about people who continue to smoke, drink alcohol, eat unhealthy foods, or refuse to exercise? They know what to do to live a healthier life but they choose not to.

It’s all symbiotic. You can’t blame the insurance company without blaming these other entities.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
127114 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:00 pm to
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Are you including how many times they have to eat the cost of doctors who make mistakes, commit fraud, and order unnecessary treatments?


Fraud and mistakes aren’t driving up healthcare costs in any significant fashion.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:19 pm to
As recently as last month, I naively assumed that at least the health insurance companies wanted their customers healthy so that they didn’t have to pay claims on their customers and they’d be fine with paying gym memberships because that’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for someone’s expensive medication for the rest of their lives. I still knew that they were evil and had extremely little sympathy for the UnitedHealth CEO that was killed, but I thought they were actually better than Big Pharma.

How wrong was I. I forget the name of the guest, but Tucker had on a guy that explained it, and while I still don’t fully understand it, the insurance companies are the ones really escalating the high pricing and they want to keep it that way. They are morally on the exact same level as the Heads of Pfizer and Moderna.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10710 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Companies are investing millions in R&D with no guarantee. If they create a winner, they have just a few years to recoup cost and generate a profit before patent expires.


AI will significantly reduce the costs to develop new drugs, so we might as well keep generics as they are. If we gave them up now, we'd never get them back. Big Pharma would just make even more money because they could simply release a "new" version of their drugs at a higher price point every couple of years and pull the old one, since we just removed all their competition.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37552 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Yep , that’s a good number
It's ridiculously stupid but health insurance did not have a trillion dollar profit margin.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58703 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:43 pm to
Insurance companies can make as much as they want, I don’t care


I’m tired of paying for “poor” people to go to the doctor every day for a runny nose
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
20919 posts
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:46 pm to
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