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Supreme Court won’t weigh Mississippi’s voting ban for felons
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:44 am
The Supreme Court on Monday said it will not consider whether a Mississippi law banning people convicted of certain felonies from voting should be overturned.
The Jim Crow-era practice extends to people convicted of nonviolent crimes, including perjury and forgery. A group of disenfranchised Mississippians asked the justices to determine whether it amounts to “cruel and unusual punishment,” which is barred under federal law.
It’s the second time in recent years the high court has been asked to overturn the state’s voting ban for some felonies, though the cases used different legal arguments. The justices also rejected the 2023 attempt.
Attorneys for the disenfranchised voters called the state’s “harsh and unforgiving” practice, which is enshrined in its constitution, a “national outlier.”
The 2023 appeal, which the Supreme Court rejected, contended that those who authored Mississippi’s constitution showed racist intent when selecting the felonies that would cause people to lose the right to vote. A lower court found Mississippi remedied the underlying discrimination by later altering which crimes are disenfranchising.
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The Jim Crow-era practice extends to people convicted of nonviolent crimes, including perjury and forgery. A group of disenfranchised Mississippians asked the justices to determine whether it amounts to “cruel and unusual punishment,” which is barred under federal law.
It’s the second time in recent years the high court has been asked to overturn the state’s voting ban for some felonies, though the cases used different legal arguments. The justices also rejected the 2023 attempt.
Attorneys for the disenfranchised voters called the state’s “harsh and unforgiving” practice, which is enshrined in its constitution, a “national outlier.”
The 2023 appeal, which the Supreme Court rejected, contended that those who authored Mississippi’s constitution showed racist intent when selecting the felonies that would cause people to lose the right to vote. A lower court found Mississippi remedied the underlying discrimination by later altering which crimes are disenfranchising.
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Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:49 am to Jbird
I have an idea. If your right to vote is important to you, don't do the crime. It's easy.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:13 am to Diamondawg
I am hesitant to make this blanket statement any longer. I used to think the same way but after the political prosecutions of people who never went into the capital or just walked in for a few minutes to take a picture on January 6, 2021 changed my thinking.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:14 am to TexasTiger13
Agree
It depends on the felony
And you should regain your right to vote after being a clean citizen for 5 years or so
It depends on the felony
And you should regain your right to vote after being a clean citizen for 5 years or so
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 10:15 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:16 am to Jbird
I have no problem with losing the right to vote being a part of punishment for criminal activity, but I think people should regain their right to vote after they have completed all responsibilities for the crime.
That means cleared parole, everything.
My concern is that once we go down this road it will eventually result in felons being able to vote immediately, even from prison.
That means cleared parole, everything.
My concern is that once we go down this road it will eventually result in felons being able to vote immediately, even from prison.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:26 am to imjustafatkid
There are plenty of states that allow felons to immediately vote once released from incarceration. What I think is an outlier is they will let a released felon vote but will not let a released felon own a gun to protect self, family, and property or even hunt. Even the white-collar felon cannot be denied gun ownership according to US statutes.
Clarence Thomas certainly admits NO CIVIL RIGHT is more important than another CIVIL RIGHT. He has made it clear many times.
Clarence Thomas certainly admits NO CIVIL RIGHT is more important than another CIVIL RIGHT. He has made it clear many times.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:59 am to Diamondawg
quote:
I have an idea. If your right to vote is important to you, don't do the crime. It's easy.
no thats bullshite
if a guy is a threat to society...keep them in prison....once they have done their time...all rights should be restored imo
at the very least, any non violent offense should have rights restored
you do realize how many laws there are in this country? 90% of them created by someone...we didnt elect
i have always said this and frankly at anytime many of us could be committing felonies without knowing or just not getting caught.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:13 am to Jbird
interesting...
i guess it doesn't entirely disenfranchise someone at a federal level?... as you could move and register to vote in another state for federal elections. not sure the constitution grants you the right to vote at more local levels.
i guess it doesn't entirely disenfranchise someone at a federal level?... as you could move and register to vote in another state for federal elections. not sure the constitution grants you the right to vote at more local levels.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:27 am to Diamondawg
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I have an idea. If your right to vote is important to you, don't do the crime.
Oh they don't care about the criminal voting - they just want his ballot/name to still be available for the all-important 'counting' process.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:36 am to lsu777
quote:And I'm fine with that. However, if they lost their right to vote due to existing laws, I have no sympathy for them.
at the very least, any non violent offense should have rights restored
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:38 am to Jbird
In general, I favor allowing convicted felons to be able to vote once they have completed their sentence. However, I am glad that the Supreme did not see fit to consider whether MS's law, which differs from my preferred policy, somehow constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment."
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:41 am to Cosmo
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And you should regain your right to vote after being a clean citizen for 5 years or so
There should definitely be a path to restoration but I don't think I would make it automatic. Make them present their case with employment history, residence history, personal references and so on.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:54 am to Diamondawg
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And I'm fine with that. However, if they lost their right to vote due to existing laws, I have no sympathy for them.
what i am saying is those laws are wrong. If we have learned anything from the political lawfare of the last 8 years...its that the government will make stuff up just to strip you of your rights. I dont trust those fricks...its why im against the death penalty. there are sick fricks that think what Trump was accused of should have meant death penalty for him.
frick that...never let the government ever have an inch.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:54 am to Jbird
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contended that those who authored Mississippi’s constitution showed racist intent when selecting the felonies that would cause people to lose the right to vote.
So they’re admitting most crime is committed by non whites? Interesting
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:19 pm to deltaland
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So they’re admitting most crime is committed by non whites? Interesting
That was the whole point of those laws. They wanted to disenfranchise blacks, so they'd get them charged with some state 'felony' and convicted. In some egregious cases, they weren't even properly arrested or ever served any prison time. That wasn't the point (Obviously this was well before the for-profit private prison systems came to the fore). The point was to hamstring those votes.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 1:20 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:56 pm to Diamondawg
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have an idea. If your right to vote is important to you, don't do the crime. It's easy.
False accusations and illegal arrests exist dude.
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