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NCAA Regulation - degree progress

Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1635 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:21 pm
I am an old guy. Wasn't there a regulation related to degree progress, i.e. a two-year student or sophomore was expected to have a certain amount credit hours? My thinking is the portal jumpers joining their fourth team AND university for year four ARE not anywhere on schedule to graduate in four or five years.

I imagine having to consider graduation rates in college sports is so... over.

Forever LSU. Geaux Tigers.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50408 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:22 pm to
Academics don’t apply anymore
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4752 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 5:26 pm to
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Academics don’t apply anymore


I’m not so sure one day you don’t even have to be enrolled in school
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8117 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:09 pm to
I seems clear that the only way forward to clean up all the issues with transfers and NIL is to have a collective bargaining agreement, and for that to happen, the players will have to be considered employees rather than students. At that point, I'm not sure it's even going to matter if they are attending classes or not. Hell, they might not have to even be students. It would certainly give them more time to focus on football, which is probably what most want anyway. It could just get crazy.

On the other hand, they might just stop having football scholarships at that point, which would finally open up scholarships for some other sports that are still essentially amateur. Football eats up so many scholarships that we can even give them to everyone on the baseball team. Then again, we might just find that universities just cut scholarships way back to save money.

So really, who knows where we'll end. But some significant changes are surely coming.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31951 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:13 pm to
This was where the NCAA lost its way and lost leverage.

Their ability to enforce academic standards has largely been unchallenged.

Much of their decrease in academic standards has been voluntary.

Returning to strict academic standards, graduation progress and entrance requirements is a way to partially put the genie back in the bottle.

Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
21424 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:21 pm to
Not many "student" athletes graduate in football anymore.

It's all a big front.....the majority of major college football players aren't really in school.
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
416 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:25 pm to
Why do you believe the NCAA is no longer enforcing academic progress rules?
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
6911 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:25 pm to
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which would finally open up scholarships for some other sports that are still essentially amateur.


Lol, those scholarships will just go away, not go to other sports.
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
416 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:27 pm to
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them to everyone on the baseball team


Baseball scholarship limits are going. to 34 fully funded.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5819 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:31 pm to
Graduating with degrees? LOL
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11961 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:31 pm to
It’s 40% of degree requirements completed after year 2
60% after year 3
80% after yr 4 and beyond

It hasn’t changed
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11422 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 7:48 pm to
The term student-athlete is laughable.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41214 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:06 pm to
A lot of athletes no longer value a college education
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12772 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:07 pm to
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Graduating with degrees? LOL
A coveted Bachelor of Arts in "African American Studies." (Even though a BS would be much more appropriate!)
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
29190 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Then again, we might just find that universities just cut scholarships way back to save money.



Revenue sharing is going to absolutely kill non revenue sports. College Baseball is finally getting noticed on the national level but I’m really worried about its future. The SEC will obviously still prioritize it but we have to someone else to play for the country as a whole to care about it.

The Olympic sports are fricked at the college level.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34037 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 10:45 pm to
The problem is too big to fix IMO and too much greed and selfishness to fix even if could be.
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
2600 posts
Posted on 1/17/25 at 11:47 pm to
Make athletes employees of the athletic department. Players/ADs can negotiate single or multi-year contracts. This doesn’t bind you to the school, only the AD. Players can attend school anywhere they choose.

Logistically, it would be impossible for a student to attend one school and play for another. That puts transfers/buyouts up for negotiations.

It becomes an employment contract, not a scholarship.
Posted by Sailor Sam
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2017
311 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 4:57 am to
Exactly. They should be referred to as athlete-students.
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1635 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:08 am to
I presume transfers lose credit hours in moves from school to school... Changes in majors, low grades... Same issue that might result from any student transferring university.

I had to twist some arms substituting a business technical writing class for a science technical writing class. A person could easily make the case for two different 'classes' but their respective syllabus had a great deal of overlap.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2326 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:59 am to
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Same issue that might result from any student transferring university.


The way things are going, eventually football players won’t have to wait until the end of the year to transfer. Let’s say if we are playing Alabama next week and our running back is injured, we will be able to pay money for the best running back in the nation for that game. After we beat Alabama, he will go back to his old school. Classes he took during his week at LSU won’t transfer.
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