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Perkins Back
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:53 pm
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:55 pm to Safety Blitz
Way to Geaux, Harold, glad to see you're staying in Baton Rouge, mayne, and puttin on that yella jersey mayne
Tell 'em you want to blitz off the end
Tell 'em you want to blitz off the end
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:56 pm to Safety Blitz
Instagram Link posted to his and LSU Footballs accounts
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This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:56 pm to LaBR4
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:59 pm to Safety Blitz
I really hope we utilize him correctly.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:08 pm to 318TigerJamz
Star and unicorn role. He has to be free
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:36 pm to Safety Blitz
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:42 pm to 318TigerJamz
I really hope that he is hitting the weight room to gain strength enough to play LB. That way he won't continue to be a tweener as he has been. Utterly stupid to blame coaches for his shortcoming.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:19 pm to NotaStarGazer
That would be like saying it’s utterly stupid to think that a position change didn’t effect Josh Reed, Travis Daniels or Devery Henderson’s careers and to not give the coaches credit for implementing those moves.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:40 pm to Madking
The player has to be capable of making the change work. Several on here say Perkins should be moved to safety. That would help him in one way since safeties don't have to have LB size. But is he good enough in pass coverage...does he look back for the ball...does he have the change of direction quickness (we do know he has great straight line speed), etc. I have heard of the players you mentioned as "changing positions" but certainly don't remember their migration. I'll take your word for those but once again, that has 0 to do with Harold Perkins ability or non-ability to change positions. If he wasn't a tweener, we wouldn't even have to have this discussion.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:44 pm to NotaStarGazer
Ok but the fact remains that he was Uber productive and a game wrecker at Star then was moved and was still productive but not in the same way and his impact plays dropped a lot. Again you wouldn’t say that Josh Reed and Travis Daniels just didn’t work hard enough to be a RB and a Safety, they were obviously in the wrong positions.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:49 pm to Madking
I said I didn't remember the other players being moved. Perkins was only effective his FR when he was rushing the passer and no one assigned to block him. When the OC opponents made allowance for him, his effectiveness declined which is why he was moved from the previous role to begin with.
All your posts are about Perkins so I assume you are a relative or know him otherwise. You are entitled to your opinion regardless but the LSU defense improved after Weeks replaced the injured Perkins on the field. That is because Weeks is a natural LBer and try as the DC could, Perkins was not a fit at any position. Being a great athlete does not mean you are a great football player. That is why that ranking of players had him equivalent to a late 4th round NFL pick. He is a 3rd day pick in the 026 draft unless he improves.
All your posts are about Perkins so I assume you are a relative or know him otherwise. You are entitled to your opinion regardless but the LSU defense improved after Weeks replaced the injured Perkins on the field. That is because Weeks is a natural LBer and try as the DC could, Perkins was not a fit at any position. Being a great athlete does not mean you are a great football player. That is why that ranking of players had him equivalent to a late 4th round NFL pick. He is a 3rd day pick in the 026 draft unless he improves.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 4:57 pm to NotaStarGazer
But that isn’t true, his win rate was 12.9% as a freshman. By comparison Swinson’s was 15.6% this season so he does often beat blockers in pass pro. To say that a player who’s had 68 pressures, 26 TFLs and 13 sacks in his first 2 seasons despite rushing on less than 30% of pass plays, can’t rush the QB or get off blocks is insane. Making it a personal attack when you’ve provided zero facts and dismissed all the data is something different entirely.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:06 pm to Madking
When did I ever attack Perkins' play as a FR? I did not. What I said was that the teams adjusted for him the NEXT season (SO season) when they tried to use him the same way. That is when House moved him more off the LOS and rushed him less. In fact, I kept bringing up the Arkansas game in 2022 season which he almost singlehandedly won. But once the OCs started assigning any blocker to him the next year, his effectiveness went down...hence he was moved into more pass coverage. And as AYS site says, he led the team in missed tackles in at least the Alabama and Ole Miss games...maybe others...which is why I keep bringing up his tackling not being that good.
This post was edited on 12/27/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:10 pm to NotaStarGazer
He played a different position the next season and he was still our best defensive player. He just didn’t make aa many impact plays in the pass rush. He went from rushing on 31.7% of passes to 21.4, his sacks dropped by 2, his TFLs stayed the same, he still had 27 pressures and his win rate was still around 10-11%.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:39 pm to NotaStarGazer
His best position will be a star role.
That is what house tried to do with him in yr two when he had him playing over the slot as a linebacker.
Problem is house didn't use him correctly as far as blitzing and pass rushing. It was to predictable.
We all agree he isn't an inside backer. Imo he definitely isn't a safety. He is a guy you move around and pass rush or blitz with. Then use him as a spy in certain situations as a linebacker. You just can't play him as an inside backer. He isn't very good at sheding tackles.
He is best going forward.
That is what house tried to do with him in yr two when he had him playing over the slot as a linebacker.
Problem is house didn't use him correctly as far as blitzing and pass rushing. It was to predictable.
We all agree he isn't an inside backer. Imo he definitely isn't a safety. He is a guy you move around and pass rush or blitz with. Then use him as a spy in certain situations as a linebacker. You just can't play him as an inside backer. He isn't very good at sheding tackles.
He is best going forward.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:24 pm to Chalkywhite84
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We all agree he isn't an inside backer. Imo he definitely isn't a safety. He is a guy you move around and pass rush or blitz with. Then use him as a spy in certain situations as a linebacker. You just can't play him as an inside backer. He isn't very good at shedding tackles.
"Moving around" sounds quite complicated IMO. Football is a team game. One of LSU's main problems when he was playing defense was they tried to "build the defense around him". That is NOT Perkins fault BTW. Kelly and the defensive staff should have worried more about team defense and less about Perkins' NFL future. I remember one media session when Kelly specifically mentioned Perkins playing a position he could play in the pros. Psst, that is NOT a problem LSU should worry about. Be concerned about winning games, not putting Perkins in the best light for an NFL future.
Also, besides not being able to fo through or around blocked as you mentioned, he is not a very good tackler either. He makes a decent amount of tackles but misses way too many. I will say the only way you miss a tackle is you get to the ball carrier to begin with...so it is to his credit and blame that he missed tackles.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 4:31 am to 318TigerJamz
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I really hope we utilize him correctly.
It’s more than that but me too. So much potential. I do think that the leadership dynamics will shift and hope he starts playing aggressively again.
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