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Bitcoin question.

Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:29 am
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2705 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:29 am
I own a little bit of this but nothing real.

It could go to a million and it wouldn’t change my life.

I don’t fully understand it and I’m getting to my question. Bear with me.

Computers solve math equations to “mine” Bitcoin.

There’s now quantum computing. Which can solve a [many thousands of years] to solve math problem in five minutes.

Understanding scarcity leads you to the assumption that some dude (company) with quantum computing capabilities is eventually going to shoot some easy fish.

1) what company do yall think does this
2) what is the future of Bitcoin with quantum computers?

Maybe you guys already covered this. I’m just curious.

Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
9407 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:28 am to
you should worry more about your bank account, 401k account, ;medical records, "dck pics" on your phone, etc. being hacked with quantum computers.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 6:29 am
Posted by Skippy1013
Lafayette, La
Member since Oct 2017
769 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:15 am to
It’s called “proof of work”. The Bitcoin miners are part of many thousands of computers all over the world that evaluate the equation and establish validation to the transaction. The size of the computer is not important, it’s the fact that it’s decentralized, meaning the validation verification is not being made by one computer, but by thousands.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3969 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:30 am to
The more Bitcoin, the more power needed to mine it. It will get more and more expensive to create it and once it hits 21,000,000 units, that’s it. There will never be anymore.

It’s damn near a perfect form of money.

I had 12 in 2012 and sold them. It drives me crazy when I think about that. And I think about it every day.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4874 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:40 am to
It’s also important to know that bc of the halving effect the full amount of 21m bitcoin will not be mined until the year 2140.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:55 am to
quote:

had 12 in 2012 and sold them. It drives me crazy when I think about that. And I think about it every day.


Man, you would have almost $1,272,000 in Bitcoin had you not sold.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
5043 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:19 am to
quote:

There’s now quantum computing. Which can solve a [many thousands of years] to solve math problem in five minutes.


Some brief research in to the quantum stuff the current google setup can hit ~100 or so qbits. To break the bitcoin algo it's been projected you need ~1,000,000 qbits. At that size it becomes a energy and physics problem as any interaction with the computer from the environment the computer will start to hallucinate. It's also unknown if at that size gravity will start to have an effect.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 8:20 am
Posted by XanderCrews
Member since Mar 2009
796 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:10 am to
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Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3969 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Man, you would have almost $1,272,000 in Bitcoin had you not sold.


I am aware

I’ve been buying daily for the last five years or so and haven’t sold any. I’m not making the same mistake
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
5275 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:19 am to
Sorry, That was my fat finger downvote. Went back with an upvote.

I had similar experience except I lost about 10 coins through the ftx fiasco - voyager and blockfi.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:19 am to
What did you sell the 12 for?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82025 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:24 am to
If quantum computing becomes a reality, which is it so very far from that at this point, I'd be far more worried about everything else in my life than what happens to bitcoin.

quote:

2) what is the future of Bitcoin with quantum computers?

Bitcoin devs already have quantum resistant code populated and ready to go. Once the network sees quantum becoming a threat (note that it is not a threat right now), the nodes will adopt the new code and things will continue to humming along
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
1225 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:25 am to
Best not to beat yourself up, mate. Nobody has all of the answers.

Besides, even if you had diamond hands for a little while longer, you wouldn't still be holding.You would have took profits awhile back still.
Posted by Novae
Member since Aug 2005
116 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 9:29 am to
Do not worry about quantum computing. It's not happening anytime soon, and even if it did, there are no real practical uses for it. I believe we're talking 50 years away from us figuring out the benefit of it, and that may only be the ability to simulate a quantum system. The Google announcement, while sounding profoundly major, is nothing. The problem they "solved" is not useful in any way....and there's no way to check to see if they got the correct answer unless you have a 10 septillion years to burn.
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3969 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:16 am to
It was around 13 bucks. I kicked myself in the arse not long after. It was over 100 a few months after I sold it.

And now, well it’s worth a little more than that.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19284 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 10:16 am to
Wow! Man, life’s a trip I tell ya.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41934 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 12:20 pm to
quote:


you should worry more about your bank account, 401k account, ;medical records, "dck pics" on your phone, etc. being hacked with quantum computers.


In theory, yes, but these companies will prepare for the quantum age first. There's a ton of research underway in post-quantum cryptography.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2705 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:09 pm to
Hahaha. This stuff is fascinating to me and I know nothing about it. Appreciate all the great responses.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
41934 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Understanding scarcity leads you to the assumption that some dude (company) with quantum computing capabilities is eventually going to shoot some easy fish.



I'm not worried about it. We're decades away from a quantum computer that can break classical encryption, and we're even further away from QCs being available to the average joe. In our lifetimes, we'll probably just see them used for cloud services available to a handful of companies. Governments will also regulate how it can be used and by whom.
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