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Rant...Institute a "Salary" Cap
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:49 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:49 am
Nick Saban got it right. We have to do something about the NIL space in CFB. I can't blame recruits for taking money right now at premier programs like Texas. As bias as I am I think LSU is a great school for development (as you see in the NFL). I don't think LSU can compete in the Tier 1 and Tier 2 recruiting space. Losing all of these players leading up to tomorrow, is frustrating. Now Phillips. Probably Stewart...
Thoughts on instituting a "NIL Cap" similar to salary cap so schools who are backed by Phil Knight himself (Oregon) or even schools that dump all of their money into a player (Underwood/Michigan). This probably will never happen because it makes too much sense.
On top of not being able to compete in the NIL space, BK lost these program changing recruits because of our loss streak. He will never take us to the big game..
Thoughts on instituting a "NIL Cap" similar to salary cap so schools who are backed by Phil Knight himself (Oregon) or even schools that dump all of their money into a player (Underwood/Michigan). This probably will never happen because it makes too much sense.
On top of not being able to compete in the NIL space, BK lost these program changing recruits because of our loss streak. He will never take us to the big game..
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 10:55 am
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:52 am to TexasBoudinKing
quote:And ends, “In summary of my topic, BK sucks.”
Rant...Institute a "Salary" Cap
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:54 am to drizztiger
Am I wrong??
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:55 am to TexasBoudinKing
When are the players going to create a union? Can’t happen without collective bargaining and if I’m a player I let the NIL skyrocket first. Until many universities drop football or refuse to play NIL game the players hold all the cards.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:56 am to TexasBoudinKing
You can't institute a salary cap because you're restricting how much an athlete can earn from their own name, image and likeness. This money isn't necessarily coming from the school. The supreme court said they can get paid, NCAA had no framework for this, so now we're left with unlimited transfer, uncapped salary, no contract athletes.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:56 am to drizztiger
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And ends, “In summary of my topic, BK sucks.”
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:57 am to TexasBoudinKing
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Institute a "Salary" Cap
Who is collectively bargaining on the side of the players to get that implemented?
Because without that, it's never going to happen and it's honestly really fricking stupid of people to keep bringing it up like it's a reality.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:59 am to TexasBoudinKing
Losing the 3 games did not cause LSU to lose those recruits. It's the money.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 10:59 am to ProjectP2294
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really fricking stupid of people
If they want to broadcast their 80 IQ to the world let them.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:00 am to TexasBoudinKing
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We have to do something about the NIL space in CFB.
Google “House settlement with NCAA”
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:01 am to Geauxldilocks
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When are the players going to create a union?
Hopefully never but when they do I hope they have to pay their own tuition while they’re there.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:01 am to Ingeniero
I agree. That's what I am saying though.. Why not have limited transfer, capped salary, and contracted athletes??
Major sports and teams are limited on how much they can pay players. If Michigan wants to dump their NIL via their donors on one player, than they should be stuck with just that one player. Similar to NFL teams locking themselves up in a QB.
Federal government and NCAA can institute and tweak framework that is already there..
Major sports and teams are limited on how much they can pay players. If Michigan wants to dump their NIL via their donors on one player, than they should be stuck with just that one player. Similar to NFL teams locking themselves up in a QB.
Federal government and NCAA can institute and tweak framework that is already there..
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:02 am to TexasBoudinKing
There needs to be a cap. The people who don’t want one have nothing better in life than college football. They’ll be the first to whine when they get beat.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:03 am to Ingeniero
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You can't institute a salary cap because you're restricting how much an athlete can earn from their own name, image and likeness. This money isn't necessarily coming from the school. The supreme court said they can get paid, NCAA had no framework for this, so now we're left with unlimited transfer, uncapped salary, no contract athletes.
I'm not a lawyer and apparently neither are you because your statement is wrong. You CAN implement a salary cap. The salary cap is NOT on the players...it is on the colleges.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:03 am to TexasBoudinKing
Salary cap won’t work because of the possibility that programs will still pay players “under the table”. You would have to have severe consequences for a player getting extra money to somewhat limit that possibility. That would require an external agency looking for that kind of activity.
All this is right now is an auction. They really need to ban any words like recruitment, commitment, and flipping from this entire process. It’s purchasing, plain and simple. And schools should think twice about giving out scholarships. These athletes should be able to pay their own way in to be a “student athlete”.
All this is right now is an auction. They really need to ban any words like recruitment, commitment, and flipping from this entire process. It’s purchasing, plain and simple. And schools should think twice about giving out scholarships. These athletes should be able to pay their own way in to be a “student athlete”.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:10 am to ProjectP2294
So what do you suggest??? Someone sounds upset their team went 0-9 in conference play.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:12 am to Rjlebla
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Salary cap won’t work because of the possibility that programs will still pay players “under the table”. You would have to have severe consequences for a player getting extra money to somewhat limit that possibility. That would require an external agency looking for that kind of activity.
All this is right now is an auction. They really need to ban any words like recruitment, commitment, and flipping from this entire process. It’s purchasing, plain and simple. And schools should think twice about giving out scholarships. These athletes should be able to pay their own way in to be a “student athletel
Some players have always been paid under the table. That doesn't mean that a salary cap wouldn't help immensely. And since colleges are going to get that "over the table" pool of money to provide for athletes, simply go after boosters who do the under the table stuff. Boosters have been banned from programs before when caught. Step up the enforcement of that.
As far as athletes being able to pay their own way, you understand right that the vast majority of athletes get squat or next to squat. This pay for play fiasco now only extends to the highly sought after players. You honestly believe that 3 star players get enough to eat at Burger King?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:13 am to TexasBoudinKing
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Thoughts on instituting a "NIL Cap" similar to salary cap so schools who are backed by Phil Knight himself (Oregon) or even schools that dump all of their money into a player (Underwood/Michigan). This probably will never happen because it makes too much sense.
It won't happen (in current form) because it would be an illegal anti-trust violation. The NCAA, schools, conferences cannot legally unilaterally institute a "NIL cap". In fact, there is no "NIL cap" in pro sports either. A company can pay Patrick Mahomes, Lebron James, etc as much as they want.
What I am assuming you are suggesting in more in the form of a salary cap. The first issue with that proposal is the players aren't "employees" and they aren't being paid "salaries" in the legal definition of both terms.
The NFL, NBA, MLB are monopolies. No different than Standard Oil over 100 years ago. They are monopolies because they essentially control almost the entirety of the marketplace for professional football, basketball, baseball in US. Theoretically they should not be able to legally exist as businesses in that form.
However, they get around fact by engaging in collective bargaining. That means the management (owners) and labor (players) willfully negotiate and agree to the terms and conditions of the operation of the business. There is no forced inequity by one side on the other because both sides, with largely equal bargaining power, willfully and knowingly agreed to the terms/conditions. There is a salary cap in the NFL not simply because the owners wanted one. It's because they wanted one and the players agreed to it. Conversely, there is no established salary cap in MLB because the players' union won't agree to one.
Unless and until the players become "employees" and form an established union to negotiate with their "employers" (i.e. schools, conferences and/or NCAA) any discussion regarding "caps" is a complete waste of time.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:26 am
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:14 am to TexasBoudinKing
Congress has to pass legislation that will allow college athletic departments to operate as a legal cartel first. People forget this but congressional legislation is the only way these professional sports leagues even exist because of how they operate.
Once the legislation is in place they can move to create a framework for rules and salaries and contracts.
Until then it’s the Wild West.
Once the legislation is in place they can move to create a framework for rules and salaries and contracts.
Until then it’s the Wild West.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:15 am to NotaStarGazer
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I'm not a lawyer and apparently neither are you because your statement is wrong. You CAN implement a salary cap. The salary cap is NOT on the players...it is on the colleges.
That still gets incredibly complicated. For example, how does it work when someone like Livvy, who is actually being paid by brand deals or whatever (that is, not a pay to play scenario like a football recruit), is making a ton of money? Does the university tell all the other athletes on the gymnastics team that they aren't allowed to accept any NIL deals? Do they have to cut roster size, or does everyone else have to compete for free because she ate up all the cap space? What even is considered an NIL deal? If a player starts his own brand mid season and it takes off, does he have to stop once he hits a certain number?
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