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The Kelly loyalists are as bad as the O ones. Honest assessment of where we are

Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:51 am
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
1825 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:51 am
This is a terrible football team in year 3. Anyone have an answer to these? Or are we all finally on board with Kelly is either incompetent or took advantage of our terrible AD?

1. We don’t have the talent to compete. Why and how are our coaches that bad at assessing talent? It’s year 3 and the CBK recruits are terrible.

2. The coordinator hires. When will he finally be accountable for Matt House and Sloan?

3. The culture. The players were yelling at Kelly. Some of the players were suspended in the first quarter. The lack of caring.
Posted by SmoothBox
Member since May 2023
1674 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:52 am to
They’re worse.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80405 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:54 am to
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We don’t have the talent to compete. Why and how are our coaches that bad at assessing talent? It’s year 3 and the CBK recruits are terrible.

If you have been paying attention for 3 years, you would understand why they are in this position.

quote:

The coordinator hires. When will he finally be accountable for Matt House and Sloan?

You are aware they fired house a year ago, right? Its in season, they arent going to fire sloan in the middle of it.

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The culture. The players were yelling at Kelly. Some of the players were suspended in the first quarter. The lack of caring.

I did not see a lack of caring on the field yesterday


Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10953 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:56 am to
It’s now obvious that Kelly will never be successful here. Time to make a change, no matter how painful it may be. The longer you wait, the worse it will get.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86904 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:56 am to
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The players were yelling at Kelly


Yea bc Brian is fricking up their draft status and called a dog shite game. Naturally they want to win but are hamstrung due to our mediocre coach
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4660 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 7:58 am to
It’s almost impossible for anyone to defend Kelly.

He has lost the team as well.

It’s over and now just a waiting game. When will lsu pull together the buyout.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
9017 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:00 am to
you can cry and scream until the cows come home but right now LSU is paying for an entire defensive staff that they let go from last year, and they still owe Brian Kelly 61 million if they fired him today. so changes are not going to be coming like you want, so just accept it.

LSU at least three more years of Brian Kelly .

I want Brian Kelly gone as bad as the next person but reality is reality. LSU cannot afford it.
This post was edited on 11/17/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
1825 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:01 am to
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josh336


We found one
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
80405 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:02 am to
No where in my response did i defend kelly, but sure, if it makes you feel better
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12088 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:03 am to
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If you have been paying attention for 3 years, you would understand why they are in this position.


Please tell me that you're blaming O for this. If anything, Kelly's success his first 2 years are due to O's recruits, except for Jayden Daniels.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
9017 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:04 am to
quote:

It’s almost impossible for anyone to defend Kelly. He has lost the team as well. It’s over and now just a waiting game. When will lsu pull together the buyout.


paying an entire defensive staff from last year in a $61 million buyout right now would probably say in 3 to 4 years so looks like we are all going to keep waiting

LSU is not Texas A&M who alone has more money than all the other SEC schools besides Texas combined

Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10227 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:09 am to
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still owe Brian Kelly 61 million if they fired him


We have let coaches become way too powerful with this kind of nonsense. He is disincentivied from day one. We saw this when they fired O... Whom said "You said if you are paying me that much, which door do I leave out of and what time do you want me to leave".

Nobody who is expected to produce should get this kind of guaranteed entitlement. Anyone who runs a legitimate business understands the problems associated with this stupidity.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4660 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:14 am to
Next contract should be a 5 year deal with heavy performance incentives. Give a younger guy a shot to build a major program.

If he sucks like Kelly after year 3 the buyout isn’t an issue.

Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
4104 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:18 am to
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our terrible AD


Much of your post is correct, but tarnishes with this crap. UDub and A&M both hired Woody and would have him as AD today.

Mulkey and Jay Johnson aren’t coming unless they report to a supportive boss like Woody.

BK had the resume and was a “good” hire. It doesn’t appear to be working out. Who would you have hired in retrospect? Lincoln, Napier? If you’re going to critical the hire tell us in retrospect what you’ve have done differently.
Posted by AmericanEvertonian
Member since Mar 2023
137 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:21 am to
we owe him $60M if we fire him.

We are probably stuck with him for 2-3 more years at minimum.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
2814 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:22 am to
The over the top Kelly haters are just as bad as the loyalists.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6129 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:24 am to
quote:

We have let coaches become way too powerful with this kind of nonsense.

The aren’t wrong. But that doesn’t help us with our current situation.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
16129 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:25 am to
quote:

The Kelly loyalists


Found one ….

quote:

josh336


Its outrageous that anyone could sit here and make excuses for Kelly at this point!
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
2814 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:29 am to
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It’s year 3 and the CBK recruits are terrible.


Still too early to make a determination on this as players are all still young.

quote:

When will he finally be accountable for Matt House and Sloan?


House was great until he wasn't and a change was made immediately. Will see what happens with Sloan after this season.

quote:

The culture. The players were yelling at Kelly. Some of the players were suspended in the first quarter. The lack of caring.


These next 2 games will be big time culture check. Players can quit/opt out or buy into getting better for next season and show some pride. These next 2 games are probably as important of games as any for Kelly long term.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
6024 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 8:30 am to
How do you know that? They came up with the money to pay him and the staff, they can come up with the cash to run them off. He will get one more year, max. It's playoffs or bust in 2025. If LSU misses out, then he's gone. Right now, there's obviously a culture problem. In 10 quarters since the 2nd half of the ATM game, the team has done a 180. Something is seriously going on internally. 2 defensive starters were "suspended" for the 1st quarter yesterday for reasons, unknown. Kelly will have one more year to fix it. IMO, play the young , and hungry guys the next 2 weeks, that can compete for starting positions in 2025. What's the worse that can happen? 6-6? Saban lost 5 games in his 3rd year.
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