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Louisiana doing Louisiana things…MOAR taxes

Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:13 am
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:13 am
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Louisiana currently levies a 15% GGR tax on online sports betting licensees. Should Republican Representative Wilder’s HB22 pass it would bring the state’s tax to the joint-highest level in the US alongside New York.

In addition, the bill aims to put a halt to operators offering promotional credits to players. Currently promotional play is permitted and credits can be deducted from Louisiana licensees’ tax calculations. Operators handed out $44.4 million in promo credits during the state’s 2023-24 fiscal year, ending 30 June 2024.


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“It seems strange to me that Republicans in Louisiana are looking to increase taxes over 300% on the industry,” said Fanatics vice president of government affairs Brandt Iden.
“Especially since, coming out of this election cycle Republicans secured significant political victories by focusing on bolstering the economy and low tax rates. Just seems oddly counterintuitive to me.”



He’s not wrong ….
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
14529 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:27 am to
I have zero sympathy for out of state gambling corporations that provide nothing for the state aside from taking stupid people's money.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:00 am to
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Louisiana doing Louisiana things…MOAR taxes

frick....
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:19 am to
We should have sympathy for the gambling industry?
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:52 am to
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coming out of this election cycle Republicans secured significant political victories by focusing on bolstering the economy and low tax rates
Right...you tax vices or excesses at a higher rate. This allows you to lower or at least not raise taxes on essentials. This election cycle said stop making it hard for a family to put milk, bread, and eggs on the table. This election cycle wasn't let's give the industry that makes billions off a non-essential a break.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10556 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:57 am to
I think you should be more worried about the tax increases he's putting on small businesses
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30387 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:02 am to
They'll all just close up shop and all the money it was bringing in will become minimum at best
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:30 am to
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In addition, the bill aims to put a halt to operators offering promotional credits to players. Currently promotional play is permitted and credits can be deducted from Louisiana licensees’ tax calculations. Operators handed out $44.4 million in promo credits during the state’s 2023-24 fiscal year, ending 30 June 2024.


I read an article about online sports gambling last week as it related to the vote in Missouri. Evidently the gambling companies have used the the promo credits to reduce their tax liabilities. When this is partnered with some bag of goods being sold to pass online sports gambling (funding education/tourism/whatever it is) then the actual tax income vs budgeted income for the state is much lower.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:25 am to
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It seems strange to me that Republicans in Louisiana are looking to increase taxes over 300% on the industry,



This just in, all Louisiana politicians are criminals looking to line their own pockets
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160509 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:34 am to
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We should have sympathy for the gambling industry?


Sympathy? No

The state's answer to its budget issues is always "uhh lets tax the shite out of something else, spend it horribly (line our pockets), and then find something else the next go around."

Maybe just maybe get your house in order (reduce government bloat) before chasing away yet another industry from this state because your answer to the problem is tax the shite out of it until we bleed it dry.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:39 am to
I normally am sympathetic to the “don’t chase an industry away with high taxes” argument but is this industry actually giving anything to the people of Louisiana at all?

I assume there are minimal jobs, no new physical presence, and so on since this just an app being operated from elsewhere. All Louisiana stands to get is the tax revenue. Nevermind all the negative societal impacts of more gambling addicts
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
2243 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:45 am to
I'm ok with it. Only affects those who gamble and disincentivizes people that gamble money away they can't afford to lose. I'd much rather them cut income tax and incentivize success.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:53 am to
Louisiana tax reform is coming, there’s a pretty good draft bill out there right now. Who knows if it passes, but it would be a very good step for the state’s tax code.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160509 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:00 am to
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'm ok with it. Only affects those who gamble and disincentivizes people that gamble money away they can't afford to lose.


I just always find it odd when supposed people on the right pick and choose when they're ok with nanny government and use strawman positions like this to justify it
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12892 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:16 am to
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This election cycle said stop making it hard for a family to put milk, bread, and eggs on the table.

A greedy billionaire will certainly fix these issues.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
8237 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:48 am to
better than any democrat
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
10840 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 10:54 am to
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wilceaux
There's a board for those discussions. This board and thread is about sports/sports betting and taxes being increased on online betting platforms within the state. My comment was directed to the OP in regards to why taxing billion dollar non-essential platforms is not the same as people wanting reprieve from their everyday expenses.

If you want to get political with the discussion then proceed to the PT board or even OT as to why you believe the tax plans set forth from one party of millionaires is better than the tax plans by another set of millionaires. I would advise to provide more substance than "he's just a greedy billionaire" though because the posters on those boards will hurt your feelings by providing actual rhetoric and substance of their own to provide their own counterpoints to your argument. If you don't have the ability to meet that rhetoric with rebuttals more than "greedy billionaire" or don't have anything to add on Louisiana taxing online gambling platforms who operate within the state more because they are using "gifted bets" to circumvent the current tax code, then maybe just let your thoughts echo around that hat rack on your shoulders instead of posting it.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30387 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:21 am to
This bill isn't going to get passed
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165648 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 11:32 am to
Essentially just a SIN tax

I'd take that over an across the board tax any day
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160509 posts
Posted on 11/12/24 at 12:07 pm to
is it an either/or situation?
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