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Obama adviser: Democrats must realize ‘our democracy’ angers voters

Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:22 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84070 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:22 am
“Democrats understandably have a hard time fathoming why Americans would put our democracy at risk, but we miss the reality that our democracy is part of what angers them,” Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser under then-President Obama, wrote in an essay for The New York Times this week.

“Many voters have come to associate democracy with globalization, corruption, financial capitalism, migration, forever wars and elites (like me) who talk about it as an end in itself rather than a means to redressing inequality, reining in capitalist systems that are rigged, responding to global conflict and fostering a sense of shared national identity,” he added.

“Out of the wreckage of this election, Democrats must reject the impulse to simply be a resistance that condemns whatever outrageous thing Mr. Trump says,” Rhodes wrote. “While confronting Mr. Trump when we must, we must also focus on ourselves — what we stand for, and how we tell our story.”

“The financial crisis came through like a hurricane, wrecking the lives of people already struggling to get by while the rich profited on the back end,” he wrote. “Then social media’s explosion offered a vehicle to spread grievance and conspiracy theories, allowing populist leaders to radicalize their followers with the precision of an algorithm.”

Reflecting on Trump’s win, Rhodes wrote that Democrats “lost touch with the anger people feel at government.”

“I would never claim to have all the answers about what went wrong, but I do worry that Democrats walked into the trap of defending the very institutions — the ‘establishment’ — that most Americans distrust,” he wrote. LINK
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
22220 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:23 am to
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our socialism angers voters


FIFY
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84070 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:24 am to
I think he is hinting they need to hide there actual socialist goals.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16664 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:24 am to
That’s right your democracy is for not us you dumb frick
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16664 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:25 am to
Rhodes. Rich coming from him
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:25 am to
So the word out now must be "hey let's be good until daddy gets home and maybe he won't punish us so bad."

They aren't doing this out of the kindness of their heart, and I seriously doubt they're just realizing all of this. They're scared.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20184 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:28 am to
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shared national identity


Not quite sure what he means but it sounds like I hate it.
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
957 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:28 am to
Nope. They still clearly do not get it.


“Then social media’s explosion offered a vehicle to spread grievance and conspiracy theories, allowing populist leaders to radicalize their followers with the precision of an algorithm.”


Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17841 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:29 am to
These people.





....are absolutely insane.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71299 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:29 am to
They are so freaking dense
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1419 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:30 am to
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“Then social media’s explosion offered a vehicle to spread grievance and conspiracy theories, allowing populist leaders to radicalize their followers with the precision of an algorithm.



They still don't get it. Are they conspiracies if it's true? Now calling Trump voters radicalized.
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
5727 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:31 am to
I initially was in favor of supporting Ukraine, but the repeated rhetorical drum beat of “defending democracy in Europe” is what ended up making it clear to me what the globalist left-regime actually meant.

Now …

frick Ukraine.

And don’t hate me just because it took me some time to come around.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8407 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:31 am to
What angers people is how they misuse the term democracy. They can’t define words on the left. See definition of woman for example.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116681 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:31 am to
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Democrats “lost touch with the anger people feel at government.”


That should read: 'at government and media.'
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17333 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:35 am to
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“Many voters have come to associate democracy with globalization, corruption, financial capitalism, migration, forever wars and elites (like me) who talk about it as an end in itself rather than a means to redressing inequality, reining in capitalist systems that are rigged, responding to global conflict and fostering a sense of shared national identity,”


Neither the definition before or after the "rather than" gets to the core of what democracy is.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15916 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:35 am to
So you've turned into everything you were against. I hope the is the death knell for neo progressivism.


Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:37 am to
that guy is dense
Posted by Radio One
On the banks of the Wabash
Member since Sep 2023
5727 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:37 am to
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What angers people is how they misuse the term democracy.

This is exactly what turned me against supporting Ukraine.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:39 am to
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Obama adviser

Obama was known for his brilliant advisers.

Al Sharpton was an Obama adviser.

frick that skinny Kenyan and his whole crew.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14476 posts
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:41 am to
The opposite of Democracy is installing a candidate.....This is pure, unmitigated gaslighting by the Dems.
They think we are all fricking stupid.
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