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Revenge of the silent male voter

Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:49 am
Saw this article posted on X and thought I would share, Pretty spot on IMO

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Revenge of the Silent Male Voter

What I learned about Trump's landslide victory from one night in New York City.

On election day, I caught the subway from Brooklyn to Manhattan. Sitting across from me an elderly woman wore a t-shirt with the image of Trump pumping his fist in the air with the words “fight, fight.” A small "I Voted" sticker was pressed onto her lapel.

She sat with an easy confidence. There were no disapproving glances from other passengers. There was no tension. No conflict. It struck me that in 2024 it was now perfectly acceptable to express support for Trump in a deep blue (Democratically held) city. As I travelled to my destination I wondered: if one could support Trump this openly in New York City, what might support look like in the rest of the country?

A few hours later I attended an exclusive well-heeled party. I spoke to various professionals who said that they had never voted Republican in their lives, but had voted for Trump that day due to his support—in their words—“for the Jews”. These Manhattanites told me that Kamala was too sympathetic to the “pro-Hamas contingent” of the far-Left, and at a time of rising antisemitism, they couldn’t bring themselves to support her. This small group of cosmopolitans represented a contingent far-removed from the stereotypical MAGA voter. And yet listening to their views, it again occurred to me: if I could find such support for Trump in the middle of a Democratic heartland—what might it look like in the rest of the country?

When I arrived at my final stop of the evening—a private underground bar in the Lower East side of the city—a celebratory atmosphere had begun to explode. The betting markets tipped a Trump win, and online supporters of Harris started to express acceptance of defeat. The beer here had already run dry. It was so bustling that it was hard to move, with young men in their twenties and early thirties outnumbering women by 2:1. These men were diverse: white, black, Hispanic, Asian. A few wore Trump caps, but the aesthetic was more like a university dorm than a MAGA rally. “This is the counter-culture” one party goer told me. "This isn't just about Trump," another said. "It's about Vance and Musk. It's about American dynamism."

In the coming days, much will be written about working class concerns—issues that have become familiar focal points for those seeking to understand Trump’s support. But while inflation and border policies will have no doubt played a role in the Republicans’ landslide victory, we might also want to look at the sentiments expressed by young male voters—voters who represent a new and emerging contingent in American politics. Nothing about the young men I spoke to appeared particularly conservative or “right-wing”. Yet it was easy for them to explain why they voted for Trump. And if we zoom out and look at broader cultural trends, it should be easy for us to understand too.

If we take a macro perspective, we see that such young men have never known a culture in which males are not routinely described as “problematic,” “toxic,” or “oppressive”. Going to university, and working at modern companies, they live in a world of Diversity Equity and Inclusion policies—many of which promote an insidious and pervasive form of anti-male discrimination. Yet to talk about it in public invites social ostracism. To criticise DEI is to risk being called a Nazi.

These young male voters know about theories of patriarchy and white supremacy, but they have never known a culture which celebrates the Great Man Theory of history. Thomas Carlyle’s nineteenth century framework for understanding the past is seen as an anachronism, not worthy of serious thought. Today we acknowledge historical figures not for their feats, but for their crimes. Whether it is due to slavery, colonisation, racism, or sexism, we tear down the monuments of our past, while building no new heroes for our future.

The problem with this way of viewing the world is that it is alienating and self-defeating. It is also wrong. By any objective standards Elon Musk is a great man of history, who is influencing the course of human civilisation for generations to come. As one party-goer told me “he caught a fricking rocket with mechanical chopsticks.” Yet despite his achievements, Musk is more likely to be scorned than celebrated by the Democratic establishment.

This tension between achievement and resentment explains much about our current moment. The young men I met that night in Manhattan weren't just voting for policies. They were voting for a different view of history and human nature. In their world, individual greatness matters. Male ambition serves a purpose. Risk-taking and defiance create progress.

This is why the Trump victory transcends conventional political analysis. It represents more than a rebuke of border policies or inflation rates. It signals a resurrection of old truths: that civilisation advances through the actions of remarkable individuals, that male traits can build rather than destroy, and that greatness—despite our modern discomfort with the concept—remains a force in human affairs.

The elderly woman on the subway, the Manhattan professionals, and the young men at the underground bar all sensed a shift. They saw in Trump not just a candidate, but a challenge to a psychosocial orthodoxy that has dominated American institutions for a generation. Their votes marked not just a political preference, but a cultural correction.

As the final results came in that night, it became clear that what I witnessed in New York was playing out across the nation. The election wasn't just a victory for Trump. It was a victory for a way of seeing the world that many thought dead: one where individual achievement matters, where male ambition serves a purpose, and where great men still shape the course of history.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34989 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:52 am to
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that civilisation advances through the actions of remarkable individuals, that male traits can build rather than destroy, and that greatness—despite our modern discomfort with the concept—remains a force in human affairs.




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one where individual achievement matters, where male ambition serves a purpose, and where great men still shape the course of historyy


best parts of the article.



and exactly right, this was a full rebuke by males of being told we were the issue and a return to the nuclear family and the idea that great nations are shaped by great men who DO, not just talk.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60997 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:56 am to
Nice piece
Posted by lsutiger251
BR
Member since Oct 2022
191 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:58 am to
Appreciate you sharing this, and I would say this is accurate representation of what many "silent male voters" felt during this election. This is a step forward for our country and innovation will be at its peak.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
19997 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:58 am to
Thanks for posting that!
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
16506 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 9:59 am to
Strong women love strong men. Megyn Kelly vs Rachel Maddow. Riley Gaines vs Joy Behar
Donald Trump vs Emoff
Vance vs Walz.

The party of science denies biological reality.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22481 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:03 am to
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“This is the counter-culture” one party goer told me. "This isn't just about Trump," another said. "It's about Vance and Musk. It's about American dynamism."

yep that’s what I’ve been saying. Im not concerned with Gen Z and younger. They’ve had the woke mind virus pushed on them their entire lives and like all generations before them the youth always have that anti-authority vibe to them and they are rejecting it. Musk helped deliver this election and we have a lot of youth in the party that will help carry MAGA forward. Being MAGA for young people is the new “punk”
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
23157 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:07 am to

Had it not been for inventions, discoveries and innovations developed primarily by Western men, the world would be a very different place.



Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34989 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:08 am to
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yep that’s what I’ve been saying. Im not concerned with Gen Z and younger. They’ve had the woke mind virus pushed on them their entire lives and like all generations before them the youth always have that anti-authority vibe to them and they are rejecting it. Musk helped deliver this election and we have a lot of youth in the party that will help carry MAGA forward. Being MAGA for young people is the new “punk”


yep...all you have to do is go to the big frats and sororities at the big Southern SEC and ACC schools and they will tell you. Plenty of kids coming from up north because they want that culture too and are so so tired of the BS that comes with going to school at the liberal hell holes.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34362 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:10 am to
Damn good read.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34989 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:11 am to
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Strong women love strong men. Megyn Kelly vs Rachel Maddow. Riley Gaines vs Joy Behar
Donald Trump vs Emoff
Vance vs Walz.

The party of science denies biological reality.


men, especially young men, are tired of being lectured by bat shite crazy women for being alpha males.

and they are tired of the fat fricks low t males lecturing too

its a return of the alpha male culture. Lifting weights is becoming cool again, bad arse vehicles is cool again, loud stereo systems are cool, sports are cool.....building bad arse shite is cool again

Males are rebuking the woke pussy professor culture.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1445 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:14 am to
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"This isn't just about Trump," another said. "It's about Vance and Musk. It's about American dynamism."


That's the real headline right there
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34989 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:21 am to
bump to page 1 for others to read
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12739 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:24 am to
This is the democrats problem. They are so hateful and attack people who vote against them it makes most people be silent about who they are voting for . So they have no idea how many people are against them till the votes are counted .
Posted by TigerDude80
METRY
Member since Nov 2007
1833 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:26 am to
Great Read. Thanks
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32133 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:34 am to
At it's core the issue is not really about male v female, black vs. white, (legal) immigrant v natural citizen, young v old. It's about leftists (not liberals) vs. everyone else.

The one trait ALL leftist share are feelings of inferiority. Low self esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, guilt, self hatred, etc. Despite their attempts at outward projections, they don't have any sense of self-esteem, self-confidence, self-reliance. That's why they have to engage in collectivism. They feel strong only as a member of a large organization or mass movement. That's where they find their identity. That's why the "I support the current thing" meme is completely accurate. It's how they can be both staunch supporters of LGBTQ and women's rights and extremely conservative muslims...despite the viewpoints of those groups being diametrically opposed. The exact viewpoints don't matter. All that matters is they identify each as "victims" (which is how they see themselves) and the feel "strong" by collectively supporting those "victims".

What this writer observed in the bar was was not young men who simply had being young men in common. As the writer pointed out, they were of varying races and nationalities. But what I'm sure they all had in common was a sense of self confidence and self reliance.

That's why after Trump lost in 2020 you didn't see thousands of social media videos of people sobbing in fear. His supporters were angry, but not pathetic sobbing puddles. And it's why you see the videos now after Trump one and organizations offering Legos, ice cream, and pizza for "adults" to gather and help their emotions. It's simply the individually strong vs the emotionally weak.
Posted by TDCPrez
Member since Dec 2023
29 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:36 am to
I personally think the "team" Trump assembled is as, or more responsible for his victory than Trump himself. In increasing order of importance, Tulsi,Gabbard, Jordan Peterson, RFK Jr, Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. Yes I place Rogan ahead of Elon because he has a huge and very politically/culturally diverse audience that listen to his podcast.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54692 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:39 am to
That’s a fantastic analysis and captures better what many have been trying to say.
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
10309 posts
Posted on 11/7/24 at 10:58 am to
GREAT article and spot on.

One of the comments also nails it"

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The rise of Patrice O’Neal Republicans. O’Neal on Marc Maron’s podcast in 2010:

“I generally don’t like living in a world where being what a man is, is a horrible thing, and no matter what a woman is, it’s a wonderful thing.”


And as much as people like Andrew Tate are toolbags, parts of his message are worthy, and speak to this sentiment.

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