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Hypothetically, Trump wins the election and becomes the 47th POTUS

Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:42 am
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:42 am
His first order of business is to make sure future elections are fair and accurate. Trump orders a special election and has the populace vote on requiring citizenship and IDs to vote.

Do the marxist cheat on this election?

What would be the out come?
Posted by labamafan
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:44 am to
Court challenges
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:45 am to
When Trump wins and the dems cry we cheated that’s when Congress needs to drop a bill.
Posted by Privateer 2007
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:46 am to
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citizenship and IDs


It's like 70% popular.
It would easily pass.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:47 am to
The USA does not have public referenda elections.

This would need to be directed from Congress, which is hopefully GOP controlled.

Congress would need to pass a law stating that for a state's electoral votes to be included, and for their "elected" Senators and Reps to be seated, they would have to meet certain requirements for their federal elections:

Citizenship verification
No voting by mail
No "day of" voter registration
ID required for registration and voting
Voting rolls MUST have been reviewed and purged NO LATER THAN 90 days prior to the election

ETA: funding would be available to states which have such systems which want to maintain them for their state elections
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 11:51 am
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:47 am to
It’s popular but when push comes to shove it means doom for democrats so they will vote party lines
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:48 am to
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Trump orders a special election and has the populace vote on requiring citizenship and IDs to vote.

Is any of this legal? Can the president order a special election? Has the American public ever voted for a national law that wasn't a Constitutional amendment?
Posted by Lake08
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:48 am to
I’ve said this for a while. I actually think this is the most important issue moving forward. No more state judges making decisions. It needs to be federal while giving NO ONE the ability to change the rules.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:50 am to
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Trump orders a special election
please suggest what authority President/Executive branch has to this

no name calling just please tell me what is the legal Constitutional Authority for Trump a President , the Executive Branch


quote:

and has the populace vote on
you mean a national referendum ?


quote:

requiring citizenship and IDs to vote.

There are laws that already required you must be a citizen of the United States to vote in federal elections



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What would be the out come?
Requiring a valid ID to vote is supported by nearly eighty percent of the citizens

LINK
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:52 am to
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What would be the out come?


Republicans not voting with him because of whatever.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:53 am to
no

no

no
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:55 am to
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The USA does not have public referenda elections.



Of course, but doesn't the fourth amendment protect us from illegal search and seizure ?

Didn't obama, by EO, allow eavesdropping on American citizens without a warrant. Remember, he has a pen and a phone.

Why couldn't POTUS order this special election via EO?
Posted by Tesla
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:55 am to
It could also be a new Constitutional Amendment in an Article V convention, considering that’s what it would take to repeal the 16th Amendment.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:57 am to
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 explicitly prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections. It is not legal in any state for a noncitizen to cast a ballot in a federal election.

While federal law does not prohibit noncitizens from casting a ballot in state or local elections, no state currently allows noncitizens to vote in statewide elections. Three states and Washington, DC, have municipalities that allow noncitizens to vote in certain local elections. San Francisco allows resident noncitizen parents and guardians to vote in school board elections. Oakland is currently attempting to enact a similar law. Some cities in Maryland and Vermont permit noncitizens to vote in municipal elections. New York City enacted a law allowing noncitizens to vote in local elections in 2021, but it was ruled unconstitutional by a state judge in 2022. Washington, DC, recently enacted a law to allow noncitizen residents to vote in all non-federal elections.

As voting in federal and state elections is limited to citizens, communities that do allow noncitizens to vote maintain processes to ensure that a registered noncitizen voter cannot receive a ballot for state or federal races. Maryland’s cities, for example, maintain separate ballots for municipal elections. This ensures that noncitizens, who may only vote in certain local elections, cannot receive a ballot for state or federal contests.

How do election offices verify voters’ citizenship status?

The process of verifying voter citizenship varies across the United States. The National Voter Registration Act of 1993 requires states to use a common voter registration form, which includes under penalty of perjury an attestation that the applicant is a U.S. citizen.

States verify voter identity and information using state and/or federal databases, such as the Social Security Administration or state departments of motor vehicles.[1] By cross-referencing information that the voter provides against information provided by these entities, election administrators can ensure that identifying information submitted on voter registration forms is accurate and legitimate. This hinders those who may attempt to register to vote using fraudulent or false information.

What are penalties for voting as a noncitizen? Does voting by a noncitizen affect their immigration status?

Illegally voting in a federal election can result in a fine and up to one year in federal prison. Additionally, a noncitizen found guilty of this crime may face deportation and revocation of their legal status under immigration law. Finally, falsely claiming U.S. citizenship for the purpose of registering to vote may also result in deportation or denial of future immigration status.

Deterrence is an important factor in ensuring compliance with voting laws. The consequences for breaking federal election law can have a profound effect on noncitizens. They could face prison time and deportation for illegal voting as well as denial of future immigration status, including naturalization. The risk of identification and punishment generally deters the behavior.

Have there been documented cases of noncitizens voting?

A BPC analysis of The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Cases database found only 77 instances of noncitizens voting between 1999 and 2023.[2] A study conducted by the Brennan Center for Justice analyzing 23.5 million votes across 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election concluded that there were approximately 30 instances of noncitizens casting votes. Illegal voting, including by noncitizens, is routinely investigated and prosecuted by the appropriate authorities, and there is no evidence that noncitizen voting has ever been significant enough to impact an election’s outcome.



This blog was updated on July 2, 2024, to correct information on the role the Social Security Administration plays in verifying voter registration information.

October 11, 2024, the Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Cases database. We filtered the database by the search query “citizen,” which returned 102 cases, and “alien,” which returned four additional cases. Through manual review, we identified 77 instances in which non-citizens successfully cast ballots between 1999 and 2023. This figure was updated on October 11, 2024; previously, we noted that that there were 24 confirmed cases of non-citizen voting between 2003 and 2023.

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:59 am to
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Trump orders a special election and has the populace vote on requiring citizenship and IDs to vote.



Are you talking about a constitutional convention? That would be about the only way to force every state onto the same page election integrity wise.
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Trump orders a special election and has the populace vote on requiring citizenship and IDs to vote.



That's not how our government works.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:04 pm to
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Why couldn't POTUS order this special election via EO?
I'm asking you what gives him the legal authority to do so?


The why not is found in the Constitution
and the separation of powers


I am asking you sincerely and I would be grateful if you could make the argument about what gives
the president of the United States
Republican or Democrat
Trump or Harris or Biden

the authority to call a National Election of any type if that's an easier argument for a change of the authority given to Congress and the State as a principle of the separation of powers in the Constitution

in fact why didn't Biden and his handlers do this if they're so corrupt why didn't Biden by executive order change some things about election law to allow minorities extra weighted votes based on systemic racism and toxic masculinity



FOR FREE 1-800-887-6661 or order pocket constitution books online. ITS FREE


don't take my word for what Your Consitution says read it for yourself
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by ruzil
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:13 pm to
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That's not how our government works.


Who said anything about the govt actually working?!
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
18161 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:21 pm to
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in fact why didn't Biden and his handlers do this if they're so corrupt


Because he doesn't have to, being the hand picked president by the people that really run things.

Other presidents have done things be EO without challenge and look where we are. Does the constitution allow for warrantless searches on American citizens? Is this not being done on a regular basis?

Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:24 pm to
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don't take my word for what Your Consitution says read it for yourself


What page is warrantless searches of American citizens allowed. You could save me some time because TLDR.
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