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Why did Clinton lose Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016?

Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:53 am
Posted by tigahfan747
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2017
1763 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:53 am
Everyone knows that she didn’t go to WI once during her campaign. Trump won all three of them in 2016, he didn’t have the same success in 2020. What went wrong for Clinton in 2016?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33144 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:56 am to
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What went wrong for Clinton in 2016?

In a word, arrogance.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
22387 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:07 am to
The polls had her so far out ahead that she didn’t think she needed to engage in nearly the amount of massive voter fraud as she did. She thought she was a shoo-in to win. In fact, towards the end of the campaign, they were reports that she was going to places like North Carolina, not because she needed them, but because she wanted to make it a landslide.

This is why they engaged in so much massive fricking voter fraud in 2020 and are trying to do it again in 2024. The lesson they learned from 2016 is that you can never have enough massive fricking voter fraud ready and able to go at all times.

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60892 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:07 am to
Clinton wasn’t a likable person. Same as Kamala
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
8670 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:11 am to
They were too confident they would win.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
78517 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:53 am to
Because they thought she was a shoe in...they actually wanted to run against Trump, that is why CNN, MSNBC and the others gave Trump great press during the Republican primaries.

They didn't think they would need massive fraudulant mail in ballots, Dominion changing votes, etc...to beat Trump.

They made sure with their Plandemic, riots, fraudulant ballots, and Dominon in place for Biden. It was so well orchestrated Biden didn't need to come out a damn basement...
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
11212 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:59 am to
She and a lot of other divisive Marxist arrogantly thought “it’s her turn.”
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
35675 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:03 am to
Just let them speak. Eventually they’ll out themselves.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20033 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:23 am to
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that is why CNN, MSNBC and the others gave Trump great press during the Republican primaries.

Uh what. Megyn Kelly asked if why he referred to women as dogs etc during a debate

They gave him attention and airtime but it wasn’t great press
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
78517 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:38 am to
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They gave him attention and airtime but it wasn’t great press


go back during the republian primaries of 2015 leading up to the convention...even Trump says they were giving him good press because they thought it would make Killary have a land slide win if he was chosen...
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64529 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:39 am to
They didn’t think they needed to cheat, but they corrected for that in 2020, Plandemic…
Posted by 32footsteps
Member since Oct 2017
496 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:42 am to
Specifically in Wisconsin..she was convinced she had it locked up. For months the local Democrat operatives were begging her to make more appearances but her campaign wouldn’t. They were relying on their national internal polling and ignoring the people on the ground.

In 2020 Wisconsin was very winnable for Trump but there are some differences between a Republican in one part of the state vs republicans in another part of the state. The die hard MAGA folks were going to support him regardless but three heavily populated red counties didn’t have that same enthusiasm level. Party leaders in those counties were always lukewarm to Trump. If that sentiment has changed and they’ve gotten fully on board he should win herein 2024.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:43 am to
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In a word, arrogance.


Yep.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20033 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:50 am to
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go back during the republian primaries of 2015 leading up to the convention.




Wrong. It really ramped up in July after he came down the escalator
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 5:53 am
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23451 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 5:57 am to
Hillary was worse than Kamala, no one liked her and still don't.


She has a superior complex and talks down to people.



Trump's first MAGA move was bringing all of Bill's whores to sit on the front row when he debated Hillary.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7882 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:43 am to
I don't know but WI, MI, PA have voted the same way since 1988
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
3178 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 6:44 am to
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Hillary was worse than Kamala


Not a fricking chance.
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:33 am to
This was when elections were somewhat fair and didn’t take weeks to decide , who won the state . I implore you to go watch John Pedestas speech the night of the election . They were caught off guard . They didn’t expect it .
Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
Member since Mar 2006
3434 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:37 am to
aint nobody got time for that basket of deplorables.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
22421 posts
Posted on 11/2/24 at 7:39 am to
Because she was one of two of the most disliked POTUS candidates in history.
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