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If Trump wins, what should be the response to the lawfare?

Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13945 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:24 pm
1. Go scorched Earth and install hardcore Trump loyalists in the DOJ and other agencies and go after crooks like Merchan and Smith
2. Still clean house at many federal agencies day 1, but put in place independents at the top of those agencies and try to put in place legislation to prevent future lawfare from occurring for other administrations

As much as I want to see #1, I feel like #2 might be the better long term solution and result in less of a backlash in the '26 midterms.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66285 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:27 pm to
Even if you put guys like Kash and Grenell in there, the bureaucracy will undermine everything.

Plus, I know we laugh at stuff like Conservative Treehouse, but that guy has done a pretty job of explaining the failsafes the IC put in place to prevent anything damaging to them from being released. Everything is protected by confidentiality, sources and methods, and potentially damaging to national security (them).
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35666 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:29 pm to
Govern. Push the agenda through.

quote:

Go scorched Earth and install hardcore Trump loyalists in the DOJ and other agencies and go after crooks like Merchan and Smith

If you want nothing to get accomplished, you could try and do things like this.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
14942 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:29 pm to
Fire and arrest the douche bag Mayorkas day one. Fock that count
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50738 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:32 pm to
My understanding is that Trump has over 2000 loyalists lined up to take over all the top layers of every agency,and they will be coordinating with the new Federal Office of Government Efficiency to selectively streamline every agency. Employees that are removed, if they can't be fired, will be reassigned to roles in North Dakota, Alaska and Mississippi.
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
22083 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5482 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:34 pm to
Scorched earth as in full on nuclear attack. Leave nothing standing.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11523 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:37 pm to
The big jury, American voters, have spoken. You prosecuted your case to them and you lost.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92187 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:00 pm to
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He needs to make sure it doesn’t happen again. I’m in favor of him creating his own goon squad and making this a national security issue so he would have carte blanche. Public hangings, public admissions etc.

Do it Donald.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:00 pm to
Gallows
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465034 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

and try to put in place legislation to prevent future lawfare from occurring for other administrations

Write a general outline of this statute for me, please.

You're talking about state and federal, civil and criminal, all of which survived basic propriety and legal grounds.

Are we getting into mindreading (that they were done for nefarious political purposes)?

This gets back to the "what is lawfare, exactly?" meme. How are you going to make legal litigation now illegal without making lots of things that aren't lawfare now illegal?
Posted by BassPro Millionaire
Carencro
Member since Jun 2013
102 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:04 pm to
He should use his power against his enemies.
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
3528 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:06 pm to
Fire up the Wood Chippers
Posted by LSUAngelHere1
Watson
Member since Jan 2018
10137 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:07 pm to
Burn it all to the ground
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24187 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:10 pm to
Unleash Elon and DOGE. Look at business lawfare by US Gov

Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8070 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:10 pm to
Prosecutor all those mofos. Pull security clearances. No retirements, fire their asses.

He absolutely must pick the right AG.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17297 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:11 pm to
Torturous death!! $49.99 per episode on pay per view.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133103 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:11 pm to
I've often said that you should never give power to an ally you don't want in the hands of an enemy one day
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13945 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:18 pm to
Right, I mean if we devolve to imprisoning the party that is out of power each time, then the USA will quickly become like Brazil or Argentina where that goes on.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465034 posts
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Look at business lawfare by US Gov


So now lawfare is now criminal (federal and state), civil (both by government and private plaintiffs, federal and state), AND federal-regulatory?




Seems like this is a bunch of things being grouped together.

Throwing in regulatory overreach makes defining this extremely complicated.
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