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Posted on 10/12/24 at 3:36 am
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 3:36 am
If you had 1-3k every month to put in the market what would u look at buying for dividend reinvestment. I am setting cash on the side every month (not for any reason in particular) and I’m thinking it makes more sense to put it in the market to grow. Thank you for any advice.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 3:38 am to
VTSAX
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 6:43 am to
PFLT
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 6:46 am
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2832 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:29 am to
SCHD
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14445 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 7:49 am to
VGT

But if you insist on dividend growth then MADVX.
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 7:55 am
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 10/12/24 at 8:27 am to
My stocks I have for dividends are JEPQ, QQQI, BITO, MO, SCHD, VZ. Growth stocks I own and like that also produce dividends are chevron, apple, KO, Microsoft, Google, AVGO.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:28 pm to
SCHD
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9227 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 7:44 pm to
MO…

IMHO, the undisputed king of dividend stocks. Average 7-8% annualized return.

To that end; if real long term growth is your objective I’d be looking at low fee Index Funds instead. More ups and downs; but, bigger upside in the long term.
This post was edited on 10/13/24 at 9:37 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:24 pm to
Didn’t MO just go above 8% with the latest dividen?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18548 posts
Posted on 10/13/24 at 9:41 pm to
I set up $1000 for VGT last month and will see how that looks after a couple months. May increase it or buy something else.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11010 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:17 am to
Can u explain more what u talking about here? What funds specifically?

But yea I’m in a good place and it doesn’t make sense to have money doing nothing if I do not need it.
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9227 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Can u explain more what u talking about here? What funds specifically?


In a nutshell; there’s a datapoint that shows that the vast majority of fund managers cannot beat the overall market return (Typically the S&P 500, the 500 largest publicly traded companies on the US market). At least not consistently. Which is to say; you may be mathematically better off simply taking what the market gives you in most instances.

Adding to this is the fact that these managed funds generally charge larger fees in order to pay the fund managers. This comes out of your earnings lowering your potential gains.

From this data the idea was born that the best strategy is to invest in the entirety of the market or a large diversified section (Total US Stock Market, Total World Market, S&P 500, Russell, etc). Accepting that you’ll take what the market gives you. You then focus on keeping as much of the returns as possible buy purchasing funds with very low fees.

It’s a proven wealth builder for buy and hold investing over a long investment horizon. It’s simple; offers good diversification and even people like Warren Buffett own significant amounts. This isn’t a strategy for someone looking for quick day trading type investments.

I’m mostly familiar with Vanguard’s offerings as that’s who I buy from. Their two biggest index ETF’s are VOO and VTI. The also have mutual fund offerings covering the same basket of stocks. Understand that while I’m buying Vanguard that virtually every other major brokerage has an equivalent product nowadays. Be it Fidelity, etc.

Hope this helps! Good luck!
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2891 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:51 am to
I wouldnt focus on dividends. Just buy a low expense ratio index fund.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:35 pm to
I do both. I just love dividends because I can get a guaranteed 10% return every year for the next 3 decades
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2891 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 4:23 pm to
You actually think dividends are guaranteed?
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 4:24 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:45 pm to
The ones I own have only gone up. Sell stock if that stops
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2891 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 6:43 pm to
Taking the dividend funds/stocks you recommended and looking at the ones that have a 5+ yr track record (MO, SCHD,VZ)

Total Return 5 & 10 yr:
MO 75.35%/102.86%
SCHD 96.95%/253.73%
VZ -4.53%/48.06%

For comparison sake
VTI 107.18%/256.03%
VOO 113.85%/273.84%

(Source Financecharts.com)

The index funds out performed. Plus, if held in a taxable account your dividend payers are going to suffer additional tax drag. I can see a case for SCHD but holding individual dividend stocks is not worth the concentrated risk. Your tactic to sell in case of a dividend cut is likely to cost you when the price craters when cut is announced and other dividend investors run to the exit.

Eta: Chevron and KO also underperformed and the others you listed arent dividend plays as they are tech sector growth stocks w lower dividend yield than the index ETFs. If anything they make a stronger case against dividend investing.
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 6:56 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:39 pm to
It’s called being diversified. I have my growth stocks that have done very well for me. I have my safe dividend stocks like KO and VZ. I have my risky dividend stocks like BITO. With BITO I get thousands a month now with dividends and it has already paid off those stocks and then a ton more. So if that stock goes to zero tomorrow I’ve already came our way ahead. I have my apple, Microsoft, nvda etc for growth stocks. A new one I’m starting to get a position in is NU. I also have done very well with BAC back when bank crisis hit and got a bunch in the low 20’s. But then again that’s a dividend stock so I guess that was a mistake
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

It’s called being diversified. I have my growth stocks that have done very well for me. I have my safe dividend stocks like KO and VZ. I have my risky dividend stocks like BITO. With BITO I get thousands a month now with dividends and it has already paid off those stocks and then a ton more


BITO is not a stock. Like not even close to a stock.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:43 pm to
It’s an ETF. And amazing dividends. But risky
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