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Football is in decline.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:31 pm
Every facet of the game is watered down and the players don't seem as fundamentally good as they once were.
The QBs especially. This year is the worst crop of Quarterback play I can remember ever seeing in my 35+ years of fandom.
They can't beat a cover 2 (Tampa 2, whatever you want to call it) because they can't read the defenses.
Flags are ruining the experience of watching, but I'm starting to think it's not the refs fault but the players for not being disciplined and working on sound fundamentals.
Football is not much fun to watch these days. How do they fix it?
The QBs especially. This year is the worst crop of Quarterback play I can remember ever seeing in my 35+ years of fandom.
They can't beat a cover 2 (Tampa 2, whatever you want to call it) because they can't read the defenses.
Flags are ruining the experience of watching, but I'm starting to think it's not the refs fault but the players for not being disciplined and working on sound fundamentals.
Football is not much fun to watch these days. How do they fix it?
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Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:32 pm to magildachunks
quote:Fire Goodell
How do they fix it?
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:33 pm to magildachunks
quote:Yeah, OK.
This year is the worst crop of Quarterback play I can remember ever seeing in my 35+ years of fandom.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:35 pm to magildachunks
I used to think these were a bunch of get off my lawn type opponents in previous years, but for 2024 I actually concur.
Offenses in general are just woeful.
Offenses in general are just woeful.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:35 pm to castorinho
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Yeah, OK.
Go back to the mid eighties when I was old enough to finally understand what I was watching and find a worse group of QBs than what we are subjected to now.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:35 pm to magildachunks
I think this is the result of simplified college offenses that don’t prepare prospects and not teaching and/or banning tackling on defense
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:38 pm to castorinho
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Yeah, OK.
This year is really bad. The numbers are the worst they’ve been since early 2000s.
Even the supposed goat has been mediocre.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:40 pm to red sox fan 13
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I think this is the result of simplified college offenses that don’t prepare prospects and not teaching and/or banning tackling on defense
Not sure if I’m willing to go that far seeing as how Jayden is dominating.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:40 pm to magildachunks
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Flags are ruining the experience of watching, but I'm starting to think it's not the refs fault but the players for not being disciplined and working on sound fundamentals.
Go watch basically any CFB game outside of Alabama vs Georgia level on-field talent and all you see is one sloppy shitfest after another. There are a miniscule amount of great coaches in college and the portal has made it even worse because you can't develop guys for 4-5 yrs in a program anymore.
Coaches can't kick the dumbass out of most players anymorr because they will fear they will transfer out in a whim, so you get undisciplined bone-headed stupidity from almost every team.
Colleges are coaching like HS from a complexity level and the NFL only has what college gives them. It's all borderline unwatchable.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:41 pm to North Dallas Tiger
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Fire Goodell
I approve
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:44 pm to FireGoodell
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:47 pm to Jack Ruby
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Break down of an average NFL game (% of total) according to the Wall Street Journal: 1) Players standing around – 1h 7m (35%) 2) Advertising – 1h 3m (33%) 3) Other – 0h 34m (18%) 4) Replays – 0h 17m (9%) 5) Actual playing time – 0h 11m (6%)
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To watch an NFL broadcast is to bask in a marathon of interruptions.
Unwatchable
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:47 pm to magildachunks
Running the ball is making a comeback.
It’s the flags.
It’s the flags.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:48 pm to magildachunks
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working on sound fundamentals.
Tom Brady sitting on the bench learning at Michigan ain't happening in this NIL portal world.
NFL is hamstrung, has to accept the crap product coming to them and forced to dumb down the game.
QBs today have every advantage to succeed like never before with the state of rules and yet we see them masquerading at the position.... Through years of high school and CFB dropping the ball.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:53 pm to slackster
I think Jayden and CJ Stroud are just outliers
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:00 pm to magildachunks
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Football is not much fun to watch these days.
I think part of it is coaching. There simply aren't that many great offensive minds out there.
Also, this new age way of rushing rookie QBs out there is one of the biggest drivers of this issue. Not every rookie QB is a Stroud or Daniels. Many of these rookie QBs are nowhere near ready to be day one starters. Many get ruined before they ever really develop. Guys like Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold & Geno Smith have proven how mentally tough they really are after failing so hard early on, bouncing around the league while continuing to develop & get better.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:04 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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NFL is hamstrung
NFL owners & GMs are part of the problem too. From forcing coaching staffs to select certain QBs high in the draft despite what their scouting department says, to forcing those same staffs to play those young QBs before they are ready as part of a marketing campaign to put asses in the stands.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:09 pm to red sox fan 13
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I think this is the result of simplified college offenses that don’t prepare prospects
Probably 95% of high school & college QBs these days never even take a snap under center while lining up under center is still part of the offensive script in the NFL. It doesn't seem like much but it's a huge adjustment when it comes to making presnap reads from under center vs from the shotgun or pistol.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:10 pm to Alyosha
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Break down of an average NFL game (% of total) according to the Wall Street Journal: 1) Players standing around – 1h 7m (35%) 2) Advertising – 1h 3m (33%) 3) Other – 0h 34m (18%) 4) Replays – 0h 17m (9%) 5) Actual playing time – 0h 11m (6%)
Soccer is the opposite, and is awesome.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:20 pm to Jack Ruby
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Colleges are coaching like HS from a complexity level
The zone read slows things down for QBs on the high school & college level. Even the play action fakes opens sections of the field wide open for them. By the time these guys get the NFL, they can't read defenses because they've played with those training wheels their whole life. They also are terrified to make tight window throws which is a must to be successful NFL QB.
The money down in the NFL is 3rd down. If a QB can't consistently make pre & post snap reads, know where his own guys will be open at & understand ball placement, they will fail. So will that offense. This is what we are seeing so much of right now.
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