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Reviewing the boxscore and this was a totally bizarre gameplan

Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:21 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78856 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:21 pm
27 rushes(not counting the 2 from Carr), 26 for Kamara. 1 from Williams, who admittedly isn’t good, but give him 5 carries to give AK a blow.

0 catches by Shaheed and only 5 targets. Finished the game with zero offensive touches.

25 pass attempts by Carr- 10 came in the 4th Q.

I appreciate sticking to the run because it’s been so good, but it wasn’t hitting today. Get Shaheed the ball any way you can. Take a deep shot for the sake of taking a deep shot.

Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9972 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:24 pm to
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Get Shaheed the ball any way you can. Take a deep shot for the sake of taking a deep shot.


As fast as he is we should be running him on cross routes and curls.
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21869 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 6:29 pm to
Saints played vanilla this game because 2 of the next 3 are against divisional opponents. Plus McCoy went down and Taysom didn’t play.
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7801 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:12 pm to
That’s great. We played vanilla for a chance to win the next 2, when this game was sitting right in front of us for the taking.

If anything, this game strengthens Taysom’s HOF case. The Eagles didn’t have to worry about him playing and got to focus all of their D prep on how to shut down normal offense, with normal players, playing normal/traditional positions.
This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 10:37 pm
Posted by SaintTigerPel
LaPlace
Member since Dec 2017
1443 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 7:43 pm to
I agree it was very vanilla, but we took 2 deep shots in the end zone to Shaheed today. Neither were particularly well played by him on 2 good passes.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
22061 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Get Shaheed the ball any way you can. Take a deep shot for the sake of taking a deep shot.

I’ll be sure to pass the message along to the oline who couldn’t hold up in the middle long enough
Posted by FireGoodell
Member since Mar 2019
8232 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 9:48 pm to
We came in with a clear plan to run the ball, rightfully so because the eagles had the worst run defense coming in.

But they decided to be good against the run today because this is the NFL and that’s how shite works.

We just didn’t adapt
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3885 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:41 am to
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Saints played vanilla this game because 2 of the next 3 are against divisional opponents. Plus McCoy went down and Taysom didn’t play.


Nice, you just set up the excuse for losing to KC. How weak of a plan would that be.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
32437 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 7:54 am to
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Saints played vanilla this game because 2 of the next 3 are against divisional opponents

I'm sure
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1687 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:40 am to
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I appreciate sticking to the run because it’s been so good, but it wasn’t hitting today. Get Shaheed the ball any way you can. Take a deep shot for the sake of taking a deep shot.

We were sticking with the run because the Iggles DL was getting hellacious penetration after McCoy went down. Carr didn't have the time to let plays progress down the field for long throws, and Kamara couldn't get between the tackles to save his life.

The only play left to us that worked was getting short plays out on the perimeter, whether it was a run or a short pass/curl near the sidelines. Once Philly found out we could do nothing in the middle, their defensive plans got very simple.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
1687 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:44 am to
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But they decided to be good against the run today because this is the NFL and that’s how shite works.

They were good against the run because Taysom was out and McCoy went down early in the 1st.

Saints are pretty good when they have all their players, but take one or two key players out of the offense and they collapse like pulling the wrong stick out in a game of Kerplunk.

Truth is, we lost because our backups are weak. And without Taysom and McCoy, we became very predictable on offense. Which, in turn, put way too much pressure on our defense which (till yesterday) never had to try and carry the team to a win - at least not this year.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
1597 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:33 am to
There are some so-called football fans who don`t know squat about
what losing the starting center and having your OL discombobulated.
This OL never played 1 snap together in a game,but I guess you FOOTBALL
geniuses don`t believe that makes a difference.The center is the QB of the line,makes all the blocking calls you lose him you are F`d.FACT
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
7678 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:40 am to
I know the plan was coming in and running it, but when the initial plan doesn't work at all, Maybe chagne it up?

A few passes early would have loosened up that run stuffing Philly was doing.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33929 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Saints played vanilla this game because 2 of the next 3 are against divisional opponents. Plus McCoy went down and Taysom didn’t play.


Dumbest shite I've seen on here in a while.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33929 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:46 pm to
McCoy getting hurt was huge. Patrick had to move and udoh wasn't very good at guard.
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
876 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:15 pm to
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As fast as he is we should be running him on cross routes and curls.


bruh he would get crushed by a safety on a cross route.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58589 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 7:59 am to
Losing McCoy was massive.

Center is huge in this Shanny zone blocking scheme.

We never recovered when he went down.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
12232 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:30 am to
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McCoy went down


Only thing you said that should have affected gameplan
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6018 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:30 am to
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27 rushes(not counting the 2 from Carr), 26 for Kamara. 1 from Williams, who admittedly isn’t good, but give him 5 carries to give AK a blow.

0 catches by Shaheed and only 5 targets. Finished the game with zero offensive touches.

25 pass attempts by Carr- 10 came in the 4th Q.

I appreciate sticking to the run because it’s been so good, but it wasn’t hitting today. Get Shaheed the ball any way you can. Take a deep shot for the sake of taking a deep shot.



Saints offensive line got abused Sunday. I've watched a couple of all 22 cut ups and it was dreadful play up front in the pass and run game. The plays were there to be made but Carr had people in his face almost immediately. The saints did a nauseating job of passing off twists and stunts up front and it limited really anything they'd be able to do or not do.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6018 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:32 am to
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Saints played vanilla this game because 2 of the next 3 are against divisional opponents. Plus McCoy went down and Taysom didn’t play.



Saints didn't play vanilla at all. Their offensive line got taken to school by the philly front and it's damn hard to do anything when you can't get at least serviceable o line play. On the tape, there were multiple plays where we had up to 3 offensive lineman turned around looking at Carr during pass pro.
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