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New Lawn Advice
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:40 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 10:40 am
Morning guys,
Looking for advice. Ran a little behind schedule on my new home so I believe I'm fairly late to get a new Bermuda lawn started. But interested in any ideas.
Located in SW Louisiana. I have a 2-acre plot that I just plowed and land leveled to set my mobile home for a few years before we build. The land was previously pastureland and is now bare dirt. I had planned on planting Highlander Bermuda because I already had it on hand. I am worried that I am too late to plant. Was thinking of just leaving it until the spring and then starting from scratch but I don't believe I can handle this bare dirt situation much longer.
Is my only option to plant Rye grass as a cover then kill it in the spring and plant or can I get away with trying the Bermuda since I already have the seed and only have the expense of fertilizer?
TIA
Looking for advice. Ran a little behind schedule on my new home so I believe I'm fairly late to get a new Bermuda lawn started. But interested in any ideas.
Located in SW Louisiana. I have a 2-acre plot that I just plowed and land leveled to set my mobile home for a few years before we build. The land was previously pastureland and is now bare dirt. I had planned on planting Highlander Bermuda because I already had it on hand. I am worried that I am too late to plant. Was thinking of just leaving it until the spring and then starting from scratch but I don't believe I can handle this bare dirt situation much longer.
Is my only option to plant Rye grass as a cover then kill it in the spring and plant or can I get away with trying the Bermuda since I already have the seed and only have the expense of fertilizer?
TIA
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:04 am to Tank015
I wouldn't seed now. Do rye and then hit it with MSM in the spring to kill it off. If you were going to sod any portion of it you can do that now.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 11:31 am to Tank015
Did the perimeter at least…. Helps with runoff , etc.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:04 pm to Tank015
I'd just rye that puppy and have a pretty winter lawn then seed in the Spring.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:54 pm to Tank015
Thanks for the response, guys. I'll go ahead and plant rye grass.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 1:06 pm to Tank015
If it's dirt right now, I'd seed, rake in, seed, and rake in(2x) before watering consistently for a couple weeks. Seeds on dirt will blow away, get eaten, etc.
Save some leftover seeds for bare spots post-germination.
And use perennial rye. I was an annual guy because it's cheaper and ca literally germinate on concrete, but this board showed me the way and perennial looks so much better and I've found easier to mow.
Save some leftover seeds for bare spots post-germination.
And use perennial rye. I was an annual guy because it's cheaper and ca literally germinate on concrete, but this board showed me the way and perennial looks so much better and I've found easier to mow.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:23 pm to ronk
quote:
I wouldn't seed now.
What about overseeding centipede now? I was planning to do that this weekend? Should I wait until the spring? What is the shelf life of seed?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:28 pm to armytiger96
As a general rule it is 90 days to first frost. That would be December 19th and it is likely that we would have had a frost by then. Seed last a very long time. Just put it in your pantry or closet.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:41 pm to ronk
Thanks Ronk
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:51 pm to CatfishJohn
What's the benefits of perennial vs annual if I plan on killing it in the spring in order to plant Bermuda? P.s I'm by far no lawn expert. My seed experience extends to food plots and that's about it lol.
Thanks,
Thanks,
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:51 pm to armytiger96
quote:Centipede would be the same as bermuda, but worse, since it is slower growing. Centipede, like bermuda, is a warm season grass so you'd have to plant it during April or May for best results.
What about overseeding centipede now? I was planning to do that this weekend? Should I wait until the spring? What is the shelf life of seed?
quote:Yes, long enough to wait until spring.
Should I wait until the spring? What is the shelf life of seed?
Also, are you overseeding bermuda with centipede??
Posted on 9/19/24 at 2:55 pm to Tank015
quote:Annual will die easier, but you'd probably need to kill either one in early to mid march to plant bermuda. So that point is moot.
What's the benefits of perennial vs annual if I plan on killing it in the spring in order to plant Bermuda?
Perennial is 10x better quality than Annual.
ARG is lime green, PRG is almost blue it's so dark.
ARG is constantly wet and difficult to mow, PRG is a quality turf grass.
ARG grows faster as well so you'd have to mow it more often.
They're really not even comparable. PRG is the way to go. You'll love the way it stripes.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:03 pm to bayoubengals88
Thank you. Looking at seeding rates for Perennial Rye, it calls for 350-450 lbs per acre. Does that sound right?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:07 pm to Tank015
quote:Yep, because it's generally about 10 lb per 1,000 sq ft.
Thank you. Looking at seeding rates for Perennial Rye, it calls for 350-450 lbs per acre. Does that sound right?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:15 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
ARG is constantly wet and difficult to mow, PRG is a quality turf grass.
ARG grows faster as well so you'd have to mow it more often.
These two are the biggest reasons. I never minded annual's look, but the mowing was more frequent and always felt like mowing a bog because of how wet and waxy it is. My mower would clog constantly.
ETA:
And honestly, you don't have to spray kill it in my opinion. Just scalp really low from multiple directions and clean up before seeding Bermuda. Rye will eventually just get choked out. I've done this with success after removing a bunch of dead trees and reworking the ground underneath in the Fall. Bermuda just takes over.
Is it as clean of a break? No. But it saves a good bit of time and money if you have a big lot.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:30 pm to CatfishJohn
quote:As someone who let it hang around this year, I really think my bermuda felt that allelopathic nature of the rye. In short, it releases chemicals that inhibit the growth of other plants (Google).
And honestly, you don't have to spray kill it in my opinion. Just scalp really low from multiple directions and clean up before seeding Bermuda. Rye will eventually just get choked out. I've done this with success after removing a bunch of dead trees and reworking the ground underneath in the Fall. Bermuda just takes over.
I seeded up to the bermuda boundary, and the bermuda was slow to expand even in full sun.
And even if you scalp it, a rainy week will suprisingly bring it back, even well nto June.
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:43 pm to bayoubengals88
quote:
Also, are you overseeding bermuda with centipede??
No bermuda over centipede
Posted on 9/19/24 at 4:03 pm to bayoubengals88
Any preference on PRG variety and places to buy?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 4:38 pm to Tank015
Can’t go wrong with Hancock Seed online, but I thought the Tractor Supply brand did well last winter.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:47 pm to Tank015
[link=(Rye)]https://youtu.be/8rEz-nfwMsY?si=s5vc73C83D06-8_g[/link]
started looking into over seeding rye this fall myself. Cultivars “hat trick” and “fire ball” seem to be the darkest options.
started looking into over seeding rye this fall myself. Cultivars “hat trick” and “fire ball” seem to be the darkest options.
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