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GPS Dog collars: Garmin vs Dogtra

Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:24 pm
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
835 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:24 pm
Who here has any experience with the Garmin Alpha 2/3 or the Dogtra Pathfinder 2? What are your opinions? I’m looking at both for my Braque Francais who I’m training to be a woodcock dog.
Posted by Old Man and a Porch
Member since Dec 2023
675 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:07 pm to
I just bought the Garmin Alpha 300 with the TT25 collar. It’s amazing what all it can do and I probably will only use 1/4 of it’s capabilities.
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
835 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 8:36 pm to
I was originally dead set on a garmin but I don’t think I need all the bells and whistles it provides… my main concern about the pathfinder is how you use your phone instead of a handheld and how it would drain my phone battery

Additionally, I want to know more about how well the pathfinder works when you lose signal. I’ve certainly been places where I didn’t plan to lose it but did and if I haven’t already uploaded a map, I’d hate to be SOL
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 8:41 pm
Posted by mbuff
louisiana
Member since Aug 2023
22 posts
Posted on 7/27/24 at 10:53 pm to
garmin alpha 10
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46258 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 7:43 am to
I run Garmin for gps and dogtra for beeper collars on my shortairs. I prefer the dogtra for a lot of reasons but when I need a gps, the garmin can’t be beat
Posted by Yukon7
Louisiana
Member since May 2018
618 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:06 am to
I’ll 2nd the alpha 10. Especially if it’s only a single dog you are tracking.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
2789 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 8:10 am to
I use the Dogtra for deer tracking. I've never had a problem with my phone losing charge but I just make sure I charge it before we leave and most of my tracks are only a few hours. If you're running all day you might have to use a charging block.

I would say the drain on your phone is similar to running google maps on you phone all day. It will drain faster.

As for overall functionality it's a great device for the price and works perfect for me. I have never lost signal so I can't give much feedback on that.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1678 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 10:22 am to
I have an alpha 10 & the now discontinued alpha 100. I like the 10 for hunting because it connects to my phone for mapping and I am usually using my phone for onX, etc. The 3 buttons across the top on the 100/200/300 make it easier for training.

I think the a200 would be the way to go for 1 unit. I don't have experience with the dogtra, but everyone I hunt with typically uses Garmin, it's nice to be able to sync up with everyone and be able to track everyone and their dog's location on a hunt.
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
835 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 3:38 pm to
I’m definitely leaning more to the Garmin 200 because of all the reasons listed above, especially the training functionality over the Dogtra. However, are all those features worth the extra $400 is the question.
Posted by ALrabbitKilla
Member since Jan 2021
243 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:02 pm to
I have the 200. When it works right, it’s great for a combo tracking/training. But seems like there’s constantly some issue. I've done every reset and update possible.
I still have the tritronics system. Going on 8-10 yrs. For training only you can’t beat the simplicity. Used it this week instead of the alpha
Have a friend with a dogtra. Has it on an older phone separate the one with regular service
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
2713 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Who here has any experience with the Garmin Alpha 2/3 or the Dogtra Pathfinder 2? What are your opinions? I’m looking at both for my Braque Francais who I’m training to be a woodcock dog.
I have the gen 1 Garmin. Absolutely love it.

Took advantage of the free trial period and downloaded a ton of aerial and topo maps for all the areas I hunt.

The newest ones are even better, my other bird hunting partner bought one last year with 2 collars. Will upgrade next season.
Posted by LSUTigahss
Member since Feb 2021
948 posts
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:46 pm to
I bought a 300i and a TT25 last year when the 300i first came out.
Hunted it all year on woodcock and quail/pheasnts. I hated it. It has a lot of features I don’t need.
I recently bought a Pro550+ and LOVE it. It’s much more functional for training and pointing as I simply get a buzz and an arrow to the dog. A lot of other guys in the dog club use the 550 as well.

I recommend a TT15x (better battery life than the TT25) and a Pro 550+.

I train with that combo every single day and love it. I have never lost signal due to distance.
This post was edited on 7/28/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Canard Gris
All over
Member since Jan 2015
104 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:07 am to
I have a couple bird dogs and hunt/field trial with many people that have way more dogs than I do. Some are professional trainers and some are just serious hunters, not a single one of them uses anything other than Garmin for tracking purposes. That might be because Garmin grabbed a lot of the market share for tracking devices early on, but I see no reason to switch myself. I currently have an Alpha and have been happy with it.

I will say that the ecollar feature of the Alpha is not the most user friendly for administering corrections. I always run a 550 as the ecollar and the Alpha as strictly a tracking collar. So I carry 2 handhelds and have 2 collars on the dog.

My Alpha screen has a dead spot on it and I need to trade it for a refurb, and I’m considering going with the 550+ and just doing away with the Alpha. I always leave the Alpha on the compass display anyways, so it’s essentially functioning like the tracking display on the 550+. With OnX and the mapping apps being on phones these days, I truly cannot remember the last time I used the Alpha as an actual GPS outside of tracking a dog. The 550+ does the same thing and is a much better ecollar from an ease of use standpoint. This is a route you could consider.
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
835 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

I will say that the ecollar feature of the Alpha is not the most user friendly for administering corrections.


Does anyone know if the tt25 is able to connect to a separate device like a tri tronics device or once it is connected to your alpha, you can’t connect it to an older controller?
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1678 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

or once it is connected to your alpha
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It depends what device, but you are definitely able to connect it to multiple compatible handhelds at one time. You can give your hunting partners a tracking code where they are able to just track or a TT code where they have the ability to Track & Train from their handheld. I found the compatibility list, it looks like it only pairs with handhelds that have TT so it would pair to a 550+ but not the standard 550. I doubt it will pair to any of the older tritronics branded controllers. You may want to reach out to Garmin to see if you can pair the 550 to get training only functionality but it doesn't look like it.

Garmin TT25 Collar Compatibility:
ALPHA 300i / 300 / 200i / 200 / 100 / 10
PRO 550 PLUS (limited to 2.5-second update rate only, default beacon light color)
ASTRO 430 (tracking function only)
NOT compatible with Astro 320 or 220 handhelds


Edit to add, if you have a Garmin watch, the dog tracking wiggets are pretty slick. You can quickly check distances by just glancing at your watch if you keep your hand held in a holster or packed away.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1678 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:36 pm to
2nd follow up: if you plan on using the TT collar around the house like I did you can cut an antenna down to just a couple of inches or completely remove it and you shouldn't have any issues with a signal for at least a couple hundred yards. After my dog chewed through her first antenna I did a little research and cut it down so it wouldn't be an issue in the house. I do keep a full size antenna handy and typically swap them when we are on a hunt but I have not had issues with range using the cut down antenna. My dog is on the younger side and hasn't really been ranging very far but we have mostly been working the thick stuff around here and not running the big country out west yet.
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