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St Tammany school board won’t approve new CBA with teachers union

Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39250 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 4:53 pm
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Back in December the school board authorized the superintendent to negotiate a new CBA. They worked on it for 6 months. Presented to school board last night for ratification. They discuss in exec session then come out and vote it down 9-4.

They then say there will be no new CBA and they direct the superintendent to create an employee handbook using the CBA as a starting point.

Seems like the board no longer wants to have to negotiate with the union to change employee policies.

The weird thing is the superintendent response.

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That agreement had largely been negotiated over the past few months by Jabbia and Brant Osborn, president of the St. Tammany Federation of Teachers and School Employees. Before the board’s meeting, Jabbia had spoken highly of it. Jabbia said he was stunned when the board voted it down. "I've never seen the board not accept it, and I've never seen the union not ratify it," he said.


If I’m the superintendent this morning I updated my resume. Hard to believe there can be that big of a disconnect with his bosses (the school board). 6 months of work for nothing - after they told him to do that work.

No school system in LA is amazing, but St Tammany is one of the better ones.
Posted by TrigSwig
Member since May 2024
331 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:02 pm to
Oh boy...here come the teacher gripes while they enjoy their 3 month summer taxpayer funded vacation sipping Pina Coladas by the pool. Their griping falls on my deaf ears. Get back to work in 3 weeks and focus on your job and the kids. Don't be selfish.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70996 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
I know not all teachers are paid over the summer. Their salary is only paid during school year for some.
We didn't share finances but my ex wife always complained of having no paycheck in the summer even I would propose vacations. Leaving me holding the bag.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10411 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:08 pm to
Here in Mississippi we can't have teachers union
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
23434 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

I know not all teachers are paid over the summer. Their salary is only paid during school year for some. We didn't share finances but my ex wife always complained of having no paycheck in the summer even I would propose vacations. Leaving me holding the bag.

I thought it was their choice. You can choose to have it over 12 months (at least for public school teachers). Think she played you.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 5:15 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
58530 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

I know not all teachers are paid over the summer. Their salary is only paid during school year for some.
We didn't share finances but my ex wife always complained of having no paycheck in the summer even I would propose vacations. Leaving me holding the bag.


Nearly every district will spread your pay out to 12 months. Honestly, I'd be shocked to find a district that doesn't. I believe your ex is a liar.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34425 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:18 pm to
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ex wife always complained of having no paycheck in the summer

What did she do, sit on her arse all summer?
Posted by cmc711
In louisisana
Member since Aug 2009
192 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:19 pm to
You have a choice to be paid 9 months or 12 months. The pay rate is the same so they are just spreading the pay out which seems to be a good plan.
Only teachers bitching about the Union are the shitty ones that need the protection.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21286 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
Good.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1430 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:29 pm to
What do you expect when you put a former principle (Jabbia) in charge of running a $450M business.

Clearly he didn't manage the CBA process or it would have never come to a vote if it didn't have the support to pass. This is management 101.


Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
11434 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:40 pm to
How much are they paid?
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
10583 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:50 pm to
So STP schools are kicking the teachers union to the curb? Probably an overall positive.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
13956 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:59 pm to
My mother is on the school board. I'll see what I can find out.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13336 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:01 pm to
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Nearly every district will spread your pay out to 12 months. Honestly, I'd be shocked to find a district that doesn't. I believe your ex is a liar.
Some non certified teachers used to be paid one big check and lost benefits in the summer. They were rehired every year depending on need. That was a long time ago in some parishes. I don’t know if it is still done anywhere?
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11559 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

We didn't share finances but my ex wife always complained of having no paycheck in the summer
You didn't know how much money your wife made or how she got paid?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
51851 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

Clearly he didn't manage the CBA process or it would have never come to a vote if it didn't have the support to pass. This is management 101.


Maybe he got backstabbed by a board that doesn’t care about its teachers
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
21286 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

You didn't know how much money your wife made or how she got paid?


I have no idea what my wife makes. I don't see a penny of it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131292 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Here in Mississippi we can't have teachers union
Also in Mississippi students are not allowed to have books...
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10411 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

Also in Mississippi students are not allowed to have books...

You are correct. Most districts have went to issuing MacBooks or Chromebooks, so no textbooks are issued.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
131292 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Most districts have went to issuing MacBooks or Chromebooks
Grammar lessons must not be included on those devices...
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