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Les Miles lawsuit vs LSU - (link to court docs inside). Very interesting.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:28 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:28 am
Of course there are two sides to every argument, but this filing makes it sound like Miles was steamrolled. If you support Will Wade and think he got screwed, then you should have some sympathy for Leslie as well imo.
The investigations of football and basketball were linked together with basketball by far the bigger culprit, according to this filing.
Give it a read.
Summary - basically LSU/NCAA were investigating basketball and football at same time. There were 7 violations cited with only 1 being for football and it was a lower level one (basketball had 3 Level 1, 2 Level 2, and 1 Level 1, football had 1 Level 2 violation). Miles was not directly implicated while Wade and staff were directly involved in 5 of 6 basketball offenses.
LSU's self-imposed sanctions included vacating wins from Miles' record. No wins were vacated for basketball. Miles is essentially accusing LSU of making him the scapegoat which put him below the win% threshold for HOF consideration.
PS - Miles is not seeking $ or damages. He wants his wins reinstated for the purposes of awards/records/etc.
Leslie Edwin Miles vs LSU
The investigations of football and basketball were linked together with basketball by far the bigger culprit, according to this filing.
Give it a read.
Summary - basically LSU/NCAA were investigating basketball and football at same time. There were 7 violations cited with only 1 being for football and it was a lower level one (basketball had 3 Level 1, 2 Level 2, and 1 Level 1, football had 1 Level 2 violation). Miles was not directly implicated while Wade and staff were directly involved in 5 of 6 basketball offenses.
LSU's self-imposed sanctions included vacating wins from Miles' record. No wins were vacated for basketball. Miles is essentially accusing LSU of making him the scapegoat which put him below the win% threshold for HOF consideration.
PS - Miles is not seeking $ or damages. He wants his wins reinstated for the purposes of awards/records/etc.
Leslie Edwin Miles vs LSU
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 11:48 am
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Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:33 am to The Mick
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Will Wade and think he got screwed,
For the millionth time, Wade did himself in....whatever happened after that was a result of his DIRECT actions. Sucks, because today it wouldn't be a thing.
As far as Les, there's a reason he's not suing LSU for other reasons. Because he has no case. He did things and LSU parted ways.
During those vacated wins, that moron still got paid. Should he give that back? Especially if 1 single thing he did contributed to the necessity to vacated wins?
Hes a fraud, as always
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:36 am to The Mick
Give us a synopsis, Mick. I hate reading filings. Is he simply seeking the restoration of the wins or is he seeking monetary damages as well?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:37 am to The Mick
Wild that a 70 year old man cares this much about being in a Hall of Fame.
What’s funny is, he would have still been eligible had he not gone to Kansas with his 3-18 record.
Even with the vacated wins, he was sitting at 105-55 (.656)
He went to Kansas & his 3-18 record puts him at 108-73 (.596)
Sucks to suck Leslie
What’s funny is, he would have still been eligible had he not gone to Kansas with his 3-18 record.
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Coaches must have 10 years of coaching experience, coached 100 games, & at least a .600 winning percentage.
Even with the vacated wins, he was sitting at 105-55 (.656)
He went to Kansas & his 3-18 record puts him at 108-73 (.596)
Sucks to suck Leslie
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:38 am to The Mick
It’s simple, he shouldn’t have taken the Kansas job if he cared about his legacy.
Going 3-18 just cemented the fact that he was no longer a high level coach. And this is coming from someone who respects what Les did here.
Going 3-18 just cemented the fact that he was no longer a high level coach. And this is coming from someone who respects what Les did here.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:39 am to JimTiger72
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Wild that a 70 year old man cares this much about being in a Hall of Fame.
Wild that you can’t understand the importance of his legacy and life’s work.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:43 am to The Mick
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Of course there are two sides to every argument, but this filing makes it sound like Miles was steamrolled.
Of course it does. That's how most suits read. You got to love how three pages are talking about how wonderful he was as a head coach. They note how bad ok state was before he got there, but they seem to leave out how he inherited a beast of a program at LSU.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:44 am to Chad504boy
quote:guys with a real legacy don't have to file a lawsuit to cement the legacy. Les Miles became irrelevant the moment LSU fired him. He just can't accept that.
Wild that you can’t understand the importance of his legacy and life’s work.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:45 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:45 am to mdomingue
quote:Although he is seeking attorney fees and costs, he is NOT seeking monetary damages.
Give us a synopsis, Mick. I hate reading filings. Is he simply seeking the restoration of the wins or is he seeking monetary damages as well?
He's merely seeking equitable relief and and declaratory judgment.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:45 am to tlsu15
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respects what Les did here.
He got recruits. But any other solid coach would have won way more games with the same talent. PERIOD
Ed O came here and dominated simply by adaptation to present day offenses
He was carried by talent and others around him and it showed EVERY SINGLE frickING TIME a timely coaching decision with game implications was needed.
It was a zoo. Everyone thought Les was loyal to very bad coaches. He wasn't. He was simply terrified of how to move on to another...he had no clue what to do.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:48 am to ChatGPT of LA
btw, i hate vacating wins. It means nothing and is stupid. It's one of those things that the NCAA does because they don't have the reach to punish boosters, nor the will to death penalty another program. So, you end up with this stupid idea of retroactively taking away games that we all witnessed and the associated stats/records.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:53 am to Chad504boy
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Wild that you can’t understand the importance of his legacy and life’s work.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:53 am to mdomingue
quote:basically LSU/NCAA were investigating basketball and football at same time. There were 6-7 violations cited with only 1 being for football and it was a lower level one. Miles was not directly implicated while Wade and staff were directly involved in theirs.
Give us a synopsis, Mick. I hate reading filings. Is he simply seeking the restoration of the wins or is he seeking monetary damages as well?
LSU's self-imposed sanctions included vacating wins from Miles' record. No wins were vacated for basketball. Miles is essentially accusing LSU of making him the scapegoat which put him below the win% threshold for HOF consideration.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:54 am to ChatGPT of LA
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For the millionth time, Wade did himself in....whatever happened after that was a result of his DIRECT actions. Sucks, because today it wouldn't be a thing.
That’s what pisses people off, LSU has been bending over backwards to appease the NCAA. Why? In today’s college sports world with NIL and the portal the NCAA is a total joke and has no power.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:55 am to ChatGPT of LA
quote:Show me all of the coaches who had double-digit wins in seven out of eleven seasons.
But any other solid coach would have won way more games with the same talent. PERIOD
Show me all of the coaches who have a natty and two natty game appearances.
quote:Burrow fell into Ed O's lap. Ensminger knew how to use Burrow, and Ensminger got Joe Brady to help with the details. Aranda ran the defense. Orgeron went 5-5 and 6-7 without Burrow, Ensminger, Brady, and Aranda.
Ed O came here and dominated simply by adaptation to present day offenses
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:56 am to da prophet
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In today’s college sports world with NIL
Wade moved money FROM HIS OWN BANK ACCOUNT. NIL or not, that was an impressively stupid decision that still leads to sanctions.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:58 am to hashtag
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i hate vacating wins
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It means nothing
You posted this while you are in a discussion where vacated wins has resulted in a lawsuit file by someone that has been effected, seem like they mean more than than nothing.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 10:59 am to Salviati
NIL wasn't a reality when LSU fired Wade.... we were looking down the gun barrel of big time probation at that time. Wade fired himself.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 11:01 am to Salviati
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Show me all of the coaches who had double-digit wins in seven out of eleven seasons.
Miles is a dumb bitch now. Get used to it.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 11:04 am to Chad504boy
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importance of his legacy
Lulz
What legacy?
* He had the #1 NFL drafted QB, plus the BCS MVP QB as a result of Saban and Jimbo. The year they were both gone from LSU, Miles dropped to 5 losses. Both of those coaches also produced NCAA champs and Heisman QBs elsewhere
* He then went to a run first-offense that floundered until he was forced to start a QB due to his starters arrest. That team then went undefeated, until Miles re-inserted the arrested QB. LSU then became the only team in the championship game to score ZERO points
* LSU has produced 2 Heisman QBs since his departure
* They year he was fired, he hadnt won a single game at Kansas. The new coach had them ranked with 9 wins within 3 seasons
* At OK St his best season was 9 wins, and was never ranked. His replacement has seasons of 9, 9, 11, 12, 10, 10, 10, 10, 12, and 10 wins, and ranked in the Top 25 eleven times.
Miles is and was a clown
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