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Termites in a large water oak
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:13 pm
Had a relatively large branch fall down today from the very top of a ~70ft water oak (no rain, little wind). Upon inspection, it was mostly rotted through and a heavy termite presence. Since there are termites in this portion of the tree, is it essentially SOL over time or are termite infestations in trees isolated? I guess my question is will the rest of this tree eventually succumb to the termites over time and I remove it now or do we think it will be fine? Tree is otherwise very healthy looking.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:34 pm to TigerTatorTots
Is it a threat to your home or other structures?
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:37 pm to LegendInMyMind
The very corner of my home yes - its a ~70ft tree and it is ~50ft from the front corner of my house.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:47 pm to TigerTatorTots
It will fall eventually. How old is it? They die at 50-60 years old.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:13 pm to TigerTatorTots
I don’t think termites damaged your tree…I think they are eating dead wood.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:17 pm to MikeD
No clue the age - we've lived in the home for 6 years, home was built in 2005, it was likely there way before then.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:24 pm to TigerTatorTots
It is probably on it's way out and will fall eventually. The termites are just doing what they do, eating dead or dying wood. I advocate keeping dead standing trees whenever possible, they provide a lot to nature, but when it is a threat to your home or other structures it has to come down.
You could get it checked out by an arborist and go from there.
You could get it checked out by an arborist and go from there.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 11:02 am to TigerTatorTots
I had to cut down 5 big water oaks in my yard last year that were dead and termite infested. I think Ida may have killed them, all the twisting and whatnot. Happened very fast.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:31 pm to indytiger
Just had a company come out to give us a quote for termite treatment. We have no existing termite issues but, I did get to talking with the guy about a very large/old oak tree close to my house. As far as treatment goes, he told me that they can put the same Sentricon bait stations that would be put around the house, around the tree. Wouldn’t help with wind or rot causing the tree to fall but, never really thought about treating the tree like this.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 12:37 pm to TigerTatorTots
You can treat the tree.
Get Taurus SC, spray .8oz/gallon around the base of the tree and drill holes around the base of the tree in the ground. It will kill them but a water oak is more than likely rotten in the inside if I had to guess.
I treated all my oak trees like this after consulting a pest control store. He said repeat every 3 years. so far it is working nicely.
Get Taurus SC, spray .8oz/gallon around the base of the tree and drill holes around the base of the tree in the ground. It will kill them but a water oak is more than likely rotten in the inside if I had to guess.
I treated all my oak trees like this after consulting a pest control store. He said repeat every 3 years. so far it is working nicely.
Posted on 6/6/24 at 2:35 pm to TigerTatorTots
Yes, you can treat termite infestation in trees, and many people/parks do that for special live oaks that pose little threats. Your water oak may not fit into a "special and safe" category.
Three years ago a 70' water oak on my rear property line simply laid over during a light rain. It tore up a fence panel but no other damage. It was hollow about 20' up the trunk, and the void had been packed with mud by the termites. The tree simply became too heavy to be held by the roots which were also infested.
Three years ago a 70' water oak on my rear property line simply laid over during a light rain. It tore up a fence panel but no other damage. It was hollow about 20' up the trunk, and the void had been packed with mud by the termites. The tree simply became too heavy to be held by the roots which were also infested.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 9:20 am to Tree_Fall
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Three years ago a 70' water oak on my rear property line simply laid over during a light rain
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It was hollow about 20' up the trunk, and the void had been packed with mud by the termites. The tree simply became too heavy to be held by the roots which were also infested.
Any way for a non-expert to tell if your tree is in a similar condition? I took down a Maple tree in my backyard after Ida because we noticed termite trails on the bark while checking around for damage. Had a mud packed hole all the way up the trunk, so we decided to quickly take it down before the insurance adjuster came to the house; just in case.
I still have a 50' water oak that is on the fence line and about 10' from my shed, 25' from my house, and 40' from my neighbor's house.
This post was edited on 6/7/24 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/7/24 at 10:15 am to TigerTatorTots
like MikeD said...
water oaks life expectancy is 40 to 60 years but some can go older...
they start dropping limbs...I had 2 in my back yard years ago and took them down when they started dropping limbs...
both had hollow trunk 8' into the ground...
water oaks life expectancy is 40 to 60 years but some can go older...
they start dropping limbs...I had 2 in my back yard years ago and took them down when they started dropping limbs...
both had hollow trunk 8' into the ground...
Posted on 6/7/24 at 11:31 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Any way for a non-expert to tell if your tree is in a similar condition?
I asked the same question of an arborist who told me that mud tubes around the base of the trunk are the best evidence. That started me taking a very good look at a dangerously close to neighbor's house, big sweet gum. Two years later I spotted mud tubes on it. Rough bark and vines made them hard to spot.
Like you would do on your house, I scarped them off with a screwdriver and found them rebuilt within a day. The tree came down. The infested cavity was pretty small, and the tree might have provided safe shade for a long time more, but I figured my liability might be great based on what I knew.
SE Baton Rouge is rumored to have a great many infested big trees.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 2:48 pm to Tree_Fall
Since I'll probably be taking this tree out, I was wondering what is a good recommendation of a very fast growing tree that doesn't get more than 40' tall?
Posted on 6/8/24 at 3:22 pm to TigerTatorTots
So far, I've been passive as far as tree replacement. Two black cherries sprouted and are about 20' after 2 to 3 years. The tree is toxic, do some homework before using it.. I also have a Savannah holly from seed that is 10' at the same age. The foliage is very dense.
My plan is to transplant every tree sampling that sprouts in the yard into my many tree voids. Six trees either fell or needed cutting in last few years.
My plan is to transplant every tree sampling that sprouts in the yard into my many tree voids. Six trees either fell or needed cutting in last few years.
Posted on 6/9/24 at 12:51 pm to Tree_Fall
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My plan is to transplant every tree sampling that sprouts in the yard into my many tree voids. Six trees either fell or needed cutting in last few years.
With the cherry trees you'll have plenty of them to transplant. I have two Cherry Laurel trees, and the birds love the fruit that hangs around until Winter. That means the seeds get dropped everywhere.
They are toxic, too. I guess most cherry species are. It is cyanide that they produce, and with the Laurels the only part not toxic is the flesh of the fruit. I know that to be a fact because I watched a guy eat a double handful of them, spitting out the seeds. He had no issues from it. I've never known dogs or anything to be interested in the berries. Leaf cutter bees like the leaves and will fill quite a few full of perfectly round holes.
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