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Building first raised veggie garden tomorrow, send tips

Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted by BMTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2021
1329 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 8:31 pm
Building a 4’x4’ raised garden tomorrow with a few veggies that the wife has been asking for. Send any and all tips please and thanks! Not construction tips, garden tips
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10844 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:17 pm to
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garden tips

That’s a broad topic. For starters,

2024 Spring Garden Thread
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38000 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 9:46 pm to
Doing my first raised as well. I hit up.my fraternity brother that is adoctoe in horticulture for some basic build tips. I was going to do some 4x8's but ended up finding Northern Tool marking down a galvanized bed that size for $35 so I opted for that. I'm going to scrape up the grass, put down cardboard, add some sticks and then my soil mix and compost. I'll probably do some carrots and broccoli in the fall
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19417 posts
Posted on 5/26/24 at 11:00 pm to
Tip #1, don't crowd the bed. A 4 x 4 bed is kind of small, so you won't be growing tons of plants since many of them will get to be big long before they even start bearing fruit.

I hope you are planning on things that should be grown this time of year for whatever growing zone you are in.

I'm in N.O. and since it's almost June, it's about too late for some of the things I consider summer crops with the heat and humidity getting ready to kick on.

Post a list of what you are planning to put in the raised bed and you'll get better advice.
This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
8924 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:01 am to
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I was going to do some 4x8's but ended up finding Northern Tool marking down a galvanized bed that size for $35 so I opted for that



That’s a great deal for a 4x8. I’m going to look into it. Thanks
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 8:02 am
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28149 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:22 am to
Don’t bother with tomato plants.

If the temp is above 90 they will not set fruit.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46698 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:37 am to
good advice. right now you can plant eggplant, okra, melons, etc. eggplant is about the only thing that will fit in a 4x4 bed, two plants
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28276 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:39 am to
If you're in Louisiana you can start preparing for a fall garden. I usually plant in September.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
61898 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:01 am to
A friend of mine ordered a corrugated metal unit. The bottom you put cardboard, then fill. I have a dump trailer, my friend owns a nursery. I filled it up with a bed mix. The mix is sand and mulch. The plants are doing great. Some Co-ops sell seed by the pound, that way, you are not buying a large pack of seeds. Buy good established plants, some items, it's better than starting from seed. Have a plan for crop rotation.
YouTube has a few good videos on this.
Best of luck.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:05 am to
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If you're in Louisiana you can start preparing for a fall garden. I usually plant in September.


This will help a little:

LSU and a Fall and Winter garden!
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3543 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:24 am to
Mine is gonna be a year old in September.

I wish I would have been patient and done a better job killing the grass under it first. I have grass coming up now and my wife thinks weed killer will give us all cancer if we just look at it.

I’ve found that I need to fertilize and water a lot. I think the frequent watering is washing the nutrition down and into the soils below. I don’t know if there is a way to prevent it, but I would research it.

Finally my first planting was a bust. Have your soil tested and correct it properly before planting. My second planting is going gang busters with correct soil.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19417 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:43 am to
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eggplant is about the only thing that will fit in a 4x4 bed, two plants


You forgot about squash. Those damn plants will get HUGE with their big leaves and the way they run.


Melons too as they will vine all over the place.

Okra can be planted close since they mostly only grow tall and not too bushy near the ground. I usually put them in my garden no farther than 18 inches apart. The only thing bad about okra is they give a lot of shade since they do get so tall.

Things that can go in now in my zone are okra, squash, various peppers--both mild to super hots, beans and eggplant.

It's too late for tomatoes and cucumbers since the heat will tear them up in a few more weeks. My tomato plants usually are being pulled by July and cucumbers stop producing with fungal issues starting to come in due to the humidity.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19417 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:00 am to
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I'm going to scrape up the grass, put down cardboard, add some sticks and then my soil mix and compost. I'll probably do some carrots and broccoli in the fall



How deep is the galvanized bed you are planning to use? I ask because a lot of plants put down roots damn near as deep in the soil as the plant is tall and having a fresh layer of cardboard down on top of the ground after the grass is removed won't let that happen, at least until it breaks down and goes away------and it will.

What it sounds like you are attempting is a light form of hugelkultur gardening but usually that form of gardening calls for huge piles of debris of rotting logs, hay, leaves, etc, and covered in garden soil. Then the plants are put not only on top of the finished row, but all along the sides as well so you get maximum use of the pile.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38000 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:51 am to
It appears so but I've only just learned what that is. My friend and his wife are horticulturists at LSU so I am taking tips from them. Here is the link to the bed:

Northern Tool

quote:

72in.L x 36in.W x 11.8in.H overall size
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2872 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:34 am to
thanks for the heads up on this

i ordered one and will be arriving 5/31. i could run into town and get it in store, but i used a $5 off coupon code and got it for 32.5 after tax and free shipping

used the link below to find the coupon code. tried a bunch and there are still a few that are active.

https://couponfollow.com/site/northerntool.com


Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38000 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 11:31 am to
Nice. I may pick up another since it is a good price
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:53 pm to
The main issue with raised beds and/or containers is keeping water and nutrients balanced. Raised beds need to drain to prevent staying water logged, causing root rot, but then they have a tendency to dry out. If you water enough, you’re rinsing out a lot of nutrients and will end up chasing deficiencies and have low production.

Drip irrigation in combo with slow release fertilizer is what I’ve found works around this, an automated hose timer will keep it consistent and you can dial in the time to keep soil damp but not soaked. Any of the box stores will carry timers and some fittings/tubing, basically legos.

Make sure the bed is where it’ll get at least 6hrs direct sun a day, preferably morning sun. Butterbeans, rattlesnake beans, eggplant, thin-walled peppers, and especially okra can still be planted now and give you some production before it’s time to move to fall plantings, but you’re gonna want to use starts.
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