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Thunder start Hack-a-shack and leads to a loss
Posted on 5/12/24 at 6:45 am
Posted on 5/12/24 at 6:45 am
They start intentionally fouling Lively halfway thru the quarter…lively makes 4 FT in a row Thunder lose confidence, game over.
Reasons this was a bad move.
- Lively.is not a terrible Free throw shooter. He maybe below league average but he is not at 50% or worse.
-Terrible message to your young team. Basically telling them we can’t beat these guys straight up so we need to go to a gimmick.
-Gave Luca and Kyrie a break. Stoppages helped them rest and took some of the scoring pressure off their shoulders.
I thought it was one of the worst coaching decisions I’ve ever seen in a high leverage situation.
Reasons this was a bad move.
- Lively.is not a terrible Free throw shooter. He maybe below league average but he is not at 50% or worse.
-Terrible message to your young team. Basically telling them we can’t beat these guys straight up so we need to go to a gimmick.
-Gave Luca and Kyrie a break. Stoppages helped them rest and took some of the scoring pressure off their shoulders.
I thought it was one of the worst coaching decisions I’ve ever seen in a high leverage situation.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 7:25 am to thekid
You are wrong.
Lively was a 50.6% free throw shooter for the season.
He was 15/29 in the playoffs before going 4/4.
The blame is how unclutch SGA was in the final one and a half minutes down three points.
1:28 - SGA turnover
1:02 - SGA misses a three pointer to tie
0:29 - SGA offensive foul turnover
Lively was a 50.6% free throw shooter for the season.
He was 15/29 in the playoffs before going 4/4.
The blame is how unclutch SGA was in the final one and a half minutes down three points.
1:28 - SGA turnover
1:02 - SGA misses a three pointer to tie
0:29 - SGA offensive foul turnover
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:13 am to thekid
You should have watched more of the game.
Lively went 1/4 on the first fouls so it did start to work. I would suggest 5 points of 4 possessions is what they would have wanted, they just didn't capitalise.
Lively went 1/4 on the first fouls so it did start to work. I would suggest 5 points of 4 possessions is what they would have wanted, they just didn't capitalise.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:21 am to thekid
quote:
- Lively.is not a terrible Free throw shooter. He maybe below league average but he is not at 50% or worse
He’s 50.6 % you didn’t think you google that before writing that?
Posted on 5/12/24 at 8:43 am to wildtigercat93
It’s still a bad message to send to a young team…I’ve watched a lot of Maverick games this year and Lively hasn’t missed critical free throws all year especially considering the Mavs have the best close game record in the league…(google that you bunch of a-holes).
It was a bad coaching decision and I bet it doesn’t get used again this playoffs.
It was a bad coaching decision and I bet it doesn’t get used again this playoffs.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:38 am to thekid
Its not just about the offensive end, sometimes the goal is the force the player to the bench which affects the teams defensive strategy. and it worked. The one defensive possession Lively was on the bench OKC scored after getting 3 offensive rebounds.
Lively actually shoots free throws at a worse percentage in the 4th quarter (47.8%) than the rest of the game, which seems improbable based on your statement.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/dereck-lively-4th-quarter-averages
quote:
I’ve watched a lot of Maverick games this year and Lively hasn’t missed critical free throws all year especially considering the Mavs have the best close game record in the league…(google that you bunch of a-holes).
Lively actually shoots free throws at a worse percentage in the 4th quarter (47.8%) than the rest of the game, which seems improbable based on your statement.
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/dereck-lively-4th-quarter-averages
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:41 am to thekid
Is it me or do these guys all seem to shoot FT better than their average when they start to get “hacked”?
Posted on 5/12/24 at 9:48 am to thekid
quote:
I’ve watched a lot of Maverick games this year and Lively hasn’t missed critical free throws all year especially considering the Mavs have the best close game record in the league…(google that you bunch of a-holes).
Well it’s funny, I did google to see that Lively is also a 50 percent FT shooter (2/4) in “clutch” situations this season
That’s with the broadest definition of clutch available (game within 5 points, game within 5 minutes, and in the 4th/OT.
LINK
Seems like he’s a 50% FT percent shooter no matter how you slice it outside of what seems to be 1-2 anecdotal recollections you have of him hitting big free throws. Certainly it’s a small sample size. Most likely because the Mavs don’t want a FT liability on the floor in close games
ETA I see someone already pulled the full 4th Quarter FT % as well that are lower
This post was edited on 5/12/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:44 am to thekid
quote:thekid says the darndest things
I bet it doesn’t get used again this playoffs.
Posted on 5/12/24 at 10:51 am to VA LSU fan
quote:
1:28 - SGA turnover 1:02 - SGA misses a three pointer to tie 0:29 - SGA offensive foul turnover
add in a couple more turnovers and misses down the stretch, and you have westbrook and Durant during crunch time as thunder players
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