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re: Can anyone with any baseball knowledge at all, tell us
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:07 pm to Tiger in Omaha
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:07 pm to Tiger in Omaha
I dint love Pearson behind Jones.
he got an RBI today and he’s been good in the past but this season i think he’s .135 with RISP.
if I was making the lineup is probably go Milam White Jones Larson Travinski Pearson Braswell Milazzo Kling
he got an RBI today and he’s been good in the past but this season i think he’s .135 with RISP.
if I was making the lineup is probably go Milam White Jones Larson Travinski Pearson Braswell Milazzo Kling
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:07 pm to QB
I dont love white leading off, or larson hitting 5th, but i dont think it changes much for lineup run production. Ive seen studies in the past about lineup construction variations studied over a large sample, like mlb seasons and adjusting the lineup to maximize runs, and there isnt a huge difference from one variation to the other, other than making sure your best hitters are near the top of the lineup
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:09 pm to Cannon856
Back in the late 90s, the Cardinals had their pitcher in the 8-hole and a position player in the 9-hole. Their ideology was that after the first inning, it gave them a better chance to load the bases for Mark McGwire - who they had hitting third instead of the traditional fourth for the very reason of giving him the opportunity for more ABs. It also guaranteed that he would bat in the first inning. Similarly, not having Milam and Larson in front of White and Jones guarantees that White and Jones will both bat in the first inning.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:11 pm to QB
It's called,
B A S E B A L L
Good grief..
B A S E B A L L
Good grief..
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:11 pm to QB
Don’t question it, we’re having a stellar season
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:16 pm to Tiger in Omaha
If I said that, I would agree with you....but I didn't.
I asked...
"in what universe does a coach have Milam and Larson hitting in front of Kling and Milazzo, and not in front of White/Bear?"
I asked...
"in what universe does a coach have Milam and Larson hitting in front of Kling and Milazzo, and not in front of White/Bear?"
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:17 pm to QB
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in what universe does a coach have Milam and Larson hitting in front of Kling and Milazzo, and not in front of White/Bear?
since you doubled down on you’re dumb question
in what universe does a coach have Kling and Milazzo’s patting ahead of Milam and Larson?
ask “why is tommy leading off”
because that’s your real issue here
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:18 pm to im4LSU
What is your problem? If you disagree with me, tell me why, don't just attack another person. Do you have any other thoughts on the matter or do you just take pot shots?
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:26 pm to QB
They can’t discuss the nuts and bolts of sports so they gang up and ridicule you in order to dismiss you. It’s a tactic and it’s wrong but that’s what the Rant has become.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:28 pm to QB
I didn't insinuate that you said anything. My comment was a general comment relating to the thread - which is why I replied to Cannon and not you. But, my comment does kind of answer your question of why I think Milam AND Larson shouldn't hit in front of White and Jones. It would mean that Jones is hitting in the 4-hole and therefore isn't guaranteed an AB in the first inning - which, at this time, I would rather see Jones in the first inning than Milam. One of my earlier comments halfway agrees with you where I said that I would like to see Larson in leadoff followed by White and Jones.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:29 pm to SammyTiger
If I would have asked that question, I would agree with you.
However, I didn't.
I asked...."in what universe does a coach have Milam and Larson hitting in front of Kling and Milazzo, and not in front of White/Bear?
I agree that our worst hitters should be batting last to keep them from at bats as much as possible. The question is why don't we have betters hitters batting in front of What/Bear so they have someone to drive in. So yes, you are right, why is White batting first behind our two worst hitters. The likelihood of him coming to bat with no body on base is very high. That is what should be avoided, I think.
However, I didn't.
I asked...."in what universe does a coach have Milam and Larson hitting in front of Kling and Milazzo, and not in front of White/Bear?
I agree that our worst hitters should be batting last to keep them from at bats as much as possible. The question is why don't we have betters hitters batting in front of What/Bear so they have someone to drive in. So yes, you are right, why is White batting first behind our two worst hitters. The likelihood of him coming to bat with no body on base is very high. That is what should be avoided, I think.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:30 pm to robertjohnson3562
3562 he asked a question. If anything you are the dumb arse.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:34 pm to Tiger in Omaha
I have no problem with that. I just want someone on base for our top RBI guys to drive in...noithing more. White/Bear come up to bat with no on far too much for my liking, and it is self imposed, especially with them hitting behind our worst hitters as the game goes on.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:27 pm to QB
It’s certainly not a traditional line up but this team lacks guys who can consistently get on in front of Tommy and Bear
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:33 pm to QB
Baseball has changed. Clean-up hitters bat lead-off now. Not a fan but metrics bro. 1-4 with a HR = profit to the young Jay Johnson coaches of the world
Posted on 5/11/24 at 9:37 pm to QB
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If you disagree with me, tell me why
I did. Along with several others. Sorry I didn't write a thesis out for you. Not my fault you don't seem to understand basic baseball strategy.
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Do you have any other thoughts on the matter
Sure. Its baseball. It can be analyzed to death. I gave you the simplest form of the answer just like the others did. Jay wants to ensure that Tommy and Bear get as many as bats as possible which is somehow hard for you to understand. That means they go at the top of the lineup where you cant put anyone in front of them. Sure, you could move Milam and Larson down to be in front of them when the lineup turns over but then you are cutting down on their at bats. Kling's and Milazzo's OBP are .415 and .380 respectively. Those are really good numbers. Its not like he has Hal Hughes down there. I would be ok with Larson at the top followed by White and Jones but you cant take ABs away from your 2 best hitters, which is what you are advocating for.
You're acting like this is some off-the-wall never before seen stuff having your best hitters leading off
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I agree that our worst hitters should be batting last to keep them from at bats as much as possible..
So by stating that, one would assume that you agree that the inverse is true. That your best hitters(Tommy/ Bear) should be batting first to get the most at bats.
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The question is why don't we have betters hitters batting in front of What/Bear so they have someone to drive in.
Because you have to start somewhere.... Knowing what you literally JUST said, I dont see how this is an actual question
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So yes, you are right, why is White batting first behind our two worst hitters.
You cant be "first behind". He's batting first to ensure more at bats...
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The likelihood of him coming to bat with no body on base is very high. That is what should be avoided, I think.
Not as high as missing out completely on at bats
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 10:08 pm to QB
This was the exactly the way Paul Manieri did his line up and it worked well majority of the time. And I think he was a wonderful coach in all areas. We have been blessed with great coaches and lucky again to have another great coach. I have wondered why most of our home runs no one else is on base to score some RBI’s. I sure would like to see less solo home runs with at-least somebodies on base. But I was at the game tonight in Tuscaloosa and LSU out numbered Bama in total # of hits. We walked a few too many, however pulled ourselves out of the jam several times with men on 2 or 3 bases. I hope we can win tomorrow so badly. I see improvement each week with this young LSU team.
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:07 pm to QB
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I don't comprehend this strategy of putting your two best power hitters 1/2 and having your worst hitters batting in front of them. How can that be the best run producing formula?
Beyond the first inning you really can’t control very much about the situation when batters comes to the plate. Even in the first inning about all you can control is guaranteeing who will get an opportunity to bat, which is the first 3 spots in the order. If you put your two best hitters in 3 and 4 slot, you are only guaranteed that one will bat. Putting your best batter in the 3 hole as was done traditionally leaves you with a 35-40% or greater chance he comes to the plate with 2 outs and the bases empty. That’s not an ideal scenario to maximize the value of that batter. You may reduce the RBI of your power hitters by batting them 1 or 2, but if they are also good at getting on base, then you are maximizing their run scoring potential. The way to optimize your lineup is to order batters based on OPS (on base plus slugging) unless you have a player who contributes a lot on the base paths to put near the top (provided his OPS is still good).
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/11/24 at 11:11 pm to Tiger in Omaha
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Agree with this. But now that Larson is raking again, I'd like to see him back at the top of the lineup followed by Tanks and Bear.
Yes, I agree that optimizes the lineup. Johnson may just feel that Larson produces better when he doesn’t have the pressure of leading off.
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