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re: In this political environment what do you think of Sundance’s advice?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:18 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:18 pm to FooManChoo
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Sounds like the typical humanistic nihilism that permeates our society.
It takes something as self-centered as a monotheistic religion to look down on someone for wanting to be happy and healthy...
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:21 pm to cajunangelle
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I would be amused to see where jjnoles reads on the interwebs
Not much of anything anymore
I gave up most blogs after 2020 and radio died with Rush
Posted on 5/8/24 at 2:49 pm to Bunk Moreland
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treating politics as life and death.
Theres a whole host of folks that would absolutely disagree with you
Patrick Henry
Aaron Burr
Abraham Lincoln
JFK
RFK
Ronald Reagan
Alexander Hamilton
Louis XVI
Marie Antoinette
Nicholas II and family
Saddam Hussein
Napoleon
Just to name a few
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:49 pm to GumboPot
Good post Gumbo. I discovered the conservative treehouse byway of your post and am forever grateful. I don't understand why some people are critical, he exposes and explains truth everyday on a deep level unmatched compared to anything else I've listened to or read.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:51 pm to GumboPot
Seems a little contrived coming from an outrage merchant, regardless of the merit of the message
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:53 pm to Pettifogger
I’m more of a catturd guy myself
Cat fricking Tuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrd!
Cat fricking Tuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrd!
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:A child predator might find happiness in sexually abusing children. Unabated "happiness" is not necessarily a good thing.
It takes something as self-centered as a monotheistic religion to look down on someone for wanting to be happy and healthy...
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:25 pm to FooManChoo
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A child predator might find happiness in sexually abusing children.
That isn't happiness, and it sure as frick isn't healthy.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/9/24 at 12:31 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Nihilism doesn't have to speak to pessimism or optimism, at least not in the sense of personal outlook or feeling. It more speaks to meaning and purpose. You can feel optimistic while seeing the world, life, and all actions as ultimately meaningless just as you can be quite pessimistic while acknowledging meaning in the world. I know nihilism is often associated with pessimism, but I'm focusing on the philosophical side of it in regards to truth, meaning, and purpose.
his post is quite the opposite of extreme pessimism.
It sounds like this person is saying that there is no actual, objective purpose or meaning to life, so each person should find meaning where they can and run with it, doing what makes them happy because this life is all there is. That's the "typical humanistic nihilism" I was referring to.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You're clearly missing the point. I'm attempting to show the ridiculousness of this person's advice, which seems to wisdom to the world. Let's apply his advice to the child predator who believes this life is all there is:
That isn't happiness, and it sure as frick isn't healthy.
1. Live your best life. A child predator can believe that abusing children is what gives him/her enough happiness to keep on living, believing that they are in no doubt living their best life now. They may decide that as soon as they can no longer get happiness from abusing children (such as if they were arrested) that their best life is over and that they should kill themselves.
2. Stay healthy. A child predator may actually get health benefits from pursuing their course of abuse. Focusing on both mental and physical fitness can potentially ensure greater success in planning and execution of their abuse, being stronger to overcome children with greater ease; being faster to catch fleeing children or running away from those who might try to stop them; and being mentally sharper for both planning of the abuse as well as awareness for its execution to prevent being caught.
3. Throw sand in their machinery While I'm not sure what this means exactly, I take it to mean that people should foil the plans of those whom you dislike or disagree with. A child predator can "throw sand in [the] machinery" of society generally as well as the children and the family and friends of those whom they are abusing. If a child predator targets children of conservatives or Christians, for instance, they could be acting on this advice.
4. Laugh way too much I take this to mean that you should enjoy life to its fullest and then some; take enjoyment from all available opportunities. The child predator can live this way. If they don't care about what happens to them and think that being worm food is the best possible end game for everyone, then they can certainly "laugh way too much" at the misery and destruction they cause, especially if they have some sort of greater purpose in mind from #3.
5. Don't GAF I would say that a person who can go through with harming children is already implementing #5, at least to some degree, and if their conscience is at all pricked by their actions, this piece of advice might actually help placate their conscience so that they really don't care about anyone or anything beyond their own happiness and satisfaction.
6. Remind yourself every morning: YOU HAVE LIMITED MINUTES. Spend them wisely and only on people who deserve them. This is sort of a re-hashing of #1. Again, this is the sort of thing child predators are already implementing. If you know your time is short and there is no tomorrow in a philosophical sort of way, then "do what feels good" applies here, knowing that nothing ultimately matters in the end. This may actually give comfort and boldness to the child predator, believing that there is no judgement after this life for what they do.
As you can see, this advice can certainly apply to even the most wretched monsters in our society. It's ultimately advice that anyone can apply to themselves and use as justification for doing whatever it is they want to do, no matter how harmful it may be for themselves and others. It's advice that sees no ultimately hope or purpose beyond what any individual arbitrarily decides for themselves, and allows for anarchy if applied consistently.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Double post
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:08 am to FooManChoo
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FooManChoo
You make a valid point but to put Sundance's "advice" in context he is coming from a Christian perspective (because his website reports and blogs on political news through a Christian world views) and not a NAMBLA perspective.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:37 am to GumboPot
quote:His advice is certainly not "Christian", though, at least not all of it (particularly #1, where our "best life" is future-oriented).
You make a valid point but to put Sundance's "advice" in context he is coming from a Christian perspective (because his website reports and blogs on political news through a Christian world views) and not a NAMBLA perspective.
As I said previously, it's nihilistic at its core, and Christianity isn't nihilistic but has the goal of the Christian to glorify God and enjoy Him forever, seeking after His Kingdom in this life and communion with God for eternity. I've heard this person's advice come from God-denying atheists who truly believe there is no ultimate meaning in this life.
This post was edited on 5/10/24 at 10:39 am
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:48 am to FooManChoo
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believe
Sigh...
quote:
That isn't happiness, and it sure as frick isn't healthy.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Way to dodge everything I said. Not surprising, since you can't seem to do anything but do hit-and-run posts, attacking and mocking others while never defending your own positions. Perhaps it's because your positions are irrational.
Sigh...
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:43 pm to FooManChoo
I ignored your stupidity, as usual, correct.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:49 pm to ThePoo
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looks like a bunch of pretty worthless platitudes more so than advice
Yeah. I guess original thought is a past memory.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 2:51 pm to FooManChoo
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I'm attempting to show the ridiculousness of this person's advice,
It had to be written by a 36 year old bored housewife who ran out of things to post on facebook.
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