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‘The Marvels’ Confirmed As Biggest Box Office Bomb Of 2023
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:46 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:46 am
‘The Marvels’ Confirmed As Biggest Box Office Bomb Of 2023, Widely-Panned Sequel Resulted In $237 Million Loss For Disney
Disney Detonates Four Bombs In Deadline’s 2023 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament
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To the surprise of absolutely no one save the most die-hard and delusional of the franchise’s dwindling fanbase, the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s most recent entry, The Marvels, has been revealed to have been not only the worst performing film of 2023, but also a more than $200 million dollar sinkhole USD for the already-financially-embattered Disney.
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Meanwhile, four of the above releases ended up placing in the tournament’s bottom five, with Haunted Mansion, Wish, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, Warner Bros. Discovery’s The Flash, and The Marvels walking away from the competition as ‘The Worst Performing Films of The Year’.
Disney Detonates Four Bombs In Deadline’s 2023 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament
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The Marvels
Disney/Marvel
Net Loss: -$237M
When Marvel fanboys and fangirls smell it’s going to be good, they crowd the theater. But when it’s a dud, they stay away. One would think a sequel to a $1.1 billion-grossing female superhero movie would be logical, and asked for. However, The Marvels‘ predecessor, Captain Marvel, benefited at the box office from being a bridge between the Avengers finales Infinity War and Endgame.
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The Flash
Warner Bros/DC Studios
Net Loss: -$155M
Released well before the actors strike, it doesn’t help when your leading star is making lots of tabloid headlines, the person here being Ezra Miller. Miller was kept at bay in regards to promoting the DC movie, and the pic’s stars, which included Michael Keaton returning as Batman, were either available in limited doses or shied away from doing press (no one wanted to field questions about Miller).
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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny
Disney
Net Loss: -$143M
Harrison Ford reportedly loved the script of this finale, which is why it got made. However, Steven Spielberg passed on directing, handing the reins to James Mangold — a smart choice and able filmmaker given his history with Logan and Ford v. Ferrari. However, something went amiss. In the hands of Disney, the formerly Paramount-distributed Lucasfilm franchise sequel had too many cooks in the kitchen. There were reports of several editors trying to fix the film at the last minute, not to mention there was no attempt to cast-up this older, male-skewing movie ala Top Gun: Maverick with stars that could appeal to the under-40 crowd, which would have expanded the audience.
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Wish
Disney
Net Loss: -$131M
Disney always needs to plant an animated family film in the Thanksgiving corridor; the only problem is that the studio hasn’t seen glory since before Covid with Frozen 2. Wish followed the 2022 bomb Strange World. While original animation is always an uphill battle to launch at the box office, audiences have seen this plug-and-play princess and silly sidekicks (in this case a talking goat and puffy star) movie before, and waited this one out for Disney+ (another potential catalyst for dwindling Disney moviegoing).
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Haunted Mansion
Disney
Net Loss: -$117M
This movie, which opened July 28, was the first big casualty of the strike with its cast unable to show up at the pic’s Disneyland premiere, which the studio billed as a fan event. Above all, Haunted Mansion burned down because of its release date, opening in the wake of Barbie and ahead of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem, thus losing out on the younger-skewing audience it wanted.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 8:59 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:49 am to WPBTiger
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One would think a sequel to a $1.1 billion-grossing female superhero movie would be logical, and asked for. However, The Marvels‘ predecessor, Captain Marvel, benefited at the box office from being a bridge between the Avengers finales Infinity War and Endgame.
This is the only reason that movie made any money. And they knew what they were doing it releasing it then. They did it so they could claim people wanted more of that nonsense, and here we are now.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:59 am to WPBTiger
Can someone tell me how a media company that loses $630M in a single year on just films (and that's publicly what they tell us) is even solvent at this point?
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:16 am to Jack Ruby
quote:The head of DiscoWarner crumpled up a $90M completed film, tossed it in the trash, and got a raise. You're not exactly balancing your wife's checkbook here.
Can someone tell me how a media company that loses $630M in a single year on just films (and that's publicly what they tell us) is even solvent at this point?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:37 am to WPBTiger
It was truly amazing at how badly they missed the mark with this movie.
A solid idea would have been to focus on the effect of Carol's being so isolated for so long. It could push her to wanting to reach out to Monica, but also still feeling uneasy. Kamala's youthful optimism could help bring the two together, but the interactions also show Kamala that the hero's path isn't always fun and adventure (thus changing all three women to varying extents).
The prime villain didn't need to be a female, but it did need to be far more sympathetic in order to create a better moral dilemma for the heroines. The villain should have been more regretful in what they needed to do, but there wasn't really any other way (another moral dilemma).
Instead, we got a world where people communicate in song and dance and a villain with as much depth as an episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians.
A solid idea would have been to focus on the effect of Carol's being so isolated for so long. It could push her to wanting to reach out to Monica, but also still feeling uneasy. Kamala's youthful optimism could help bring the two together, but the interactions also show Kamala that the hero's path isn't always fun and adventure (thus changing all three women to varying extents).
The prime villain didn't need to be a female, but it did need to be far more sympathetic in order to create a better moral dilemma for the heroines. The villain should have been more regretful in what they needed to do, but there wasn't really any other way (another moral dilemma).
Instead, we got a world where people communicate in song and dance and a villain with as much depth as an episode of Keeping Up With the Kardashians.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:39 am to Fewer Kilometers
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The head of DiscoWarner crumpled up a $90M completed film, tossed it in the trash, and got a raise.
How much money would they have loss if they went ahead and marketed it and put it out there knowing it would bomb? Also, wasn't he hired after the film was made? He saw it was a turd and saved the studio from more loses.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:49 am to LSUPERMAN
quote:Not a big further investment to place it on one of your multiple hugely popular premium cable channels or your top tier streaming platform (and promote it there as well). It was a tax write-off that only worked if they canned it entirely.
The head of DiscoWarner crumpled up a $90M completed film, tossed it in the trash, and got a raise.quote:
How much money would they have loss if they went ahead and marketed it and put it out there knowing it would bomb? Also, wasn't he hired after the film was made? He saw it was a turd and saved the studio from more loses.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:06 am to WPBTiger
Disney getting their shite kicked in.
I have an idea, let's make a prominent character gay and make a new woman led Star Wars spinoff!
I have an idea, let's make a prominent character gay and make a new woman led Star Wars spinoff!
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:17 am to WPBTiger
I did my part
Didn’t spend a dollar on any of these movies listed
Didn’t spend a dollar on any of these movies listed
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:19 am to Bottom9
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make a new woman led Star Wars spinoff!
I don't think anyone minded the idea of an Ahsoka spin-off, for example.
Quality, though, suffers when you give people a built-in excuse to respond to legitimate criticisms.
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"You know, the action sequences were a bit stilted..."
"You're just saying that because you're SEXIST!"
"Wait, what? That's not..."
"Sexist piece of shite."
And so on...
People will be more inclined to give these types of shows more views if they were, you know, good from start to finish.
Obi-Wan was a male-led show and was pretty garbage until the final episode. Of course if you critiqued the female lead, it was because you were "sexist" or "racist".
Diversity as a built-in buffer against criticism is a terrible business model.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:59 am to skrayper
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‘The Marvels’ Confirmed As Biggest Box Office Bomb Of 2023
It wasn't that bad, IMO.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:43 am to SaintEB
Maybe Haunted Masion would have done better not being released in July.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:11 pm to WPBTiger
Marvel is old hat, people don’t care about it anymore
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:22 pm to SaintEB
I agree. I watched it on a flight a couple months ago and it definitely wasn't terrible. I liked the gimmick with their powers. It made the fight scenes feel fresh.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:07 pm to saintsfan92612
Indiana jones and haunted mansion were entertaining movies. Not sure why anyone didn’t go see them.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:14 pm to TSS4LSU
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Indiana jones and haunted mansion were entertaining movies. Not sure why anyone didn’t go see them.
Audiences just aren't showing up. I know it's easy to bash Disney (rightfully so) but all of Hollywood is really struggling right now. The Fall Guy looks like it's going come in far less than expected this weekend.
You might get a few wins here and there, but the theater business is in trouble, IMO
Posted on 5/3/24 at 2:30 pm to Jack Ruby
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Can someone tell me how a media company that loses $630M in a single year on just films (and that's publicly what they tell us) is even solvent at this point?
Start with more than $630 million?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:39 pm to Jack Ruby
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Can someone tell me how a media company that loses $630M in a single year on just films (and that's publicly what they tell us) is even solvent at this point?
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