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re: Joe Rogan Podcast with Bart Sibrel - who here believes the Moon Landing was a hoax?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:18 am to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:18 am to ThuperThumpin
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Its going to suck if fast spreading virus that has fatality rate of say 5-15% really does hit in this generation and we need to act fast to contain it. No one will believe the warnings.
This might actually help with natural selection.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:07 am to Asleepinthecove
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No one is refuting or skeptical that it took off and was in low earth orbit and came back down into the ocean.
NASA used LEO orbits for initial testing of the Saturn V with unmanned crews, the last being the Apollo 6 mission. Apollo 7 was the first crewed mission, orbiting the earth during comprehensive testing.
NASA estimates 400,000 people worked on the Apollo program in some capacity, ranging from phd scientists at MIT and JPL, to bad arse military test pilots with combat experience and engineering degrees.
To believe that the moon landing was an elaborate hoax, you also have to believe a few underlying, fundamental aspects supporting that hypothesis. Such as...
JFK wasn't serious declaring America would go to the moon, but rather decided for some reason to pull off a sophisticated, complex hoax on the American public, spending billions of dollars in the process that could have been better used elsewhere.
Subsequent presidents with access to the highest levels of classified information, including NASA, continued the scam and hid it from Congress.
Congressional members, many against the Apollo program's expense, were unable to learn NASA had planned and executed the greatest hoax in American history.
Apollo astronauts, some of the most skilled, experienced and risk taking pilots in the military, all agreed to participate in the hoax and lie about their flights in space and to the moon.
The Russians listened to Apollo's voice comms and telemetry data channels, and computed Apollo's space flight locations using the doppler effect. Apollo's fake missions to the moon were also kept secret by the Russians, our mortal enemy at the time.
All of these engineers and scientists at Mission Control were either in on the hoax, or fed an elaborate set of fake data by a similarly sophisticated system located somewhere unknown.
We spent a ton of money to design and build this facility, all in service to an elaborate hoax kept secret for the last 50 plus years.
Finally, you have to believe that after all these years, all of the few thousand high level scientists, engineers, astronauts, and politicians who knew the truth about the hoax, have been able to keep this secret hidden and not speak about it at all.
TLDR: of the few thousand high level presidential, congressional and NASA personnel in on the hoax, none have decided to blow the whistle on the greatest scam in American history.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:59 am to Mr Breeze
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Finally, you have to believe that after all these years, all of the few thousand high level scientists, engineers, astronauts, and politicians who knew the truth about the hoax, have been able to keep this secret hidden and not speak about it at all.
100k people worked on the atomic bomb. The public didn't know anything about it until Japan got cooked. I bet those 100k didn't even know what they were actually doing. I don't want to hear the BS about people keeping quiet about something.
No man has ever stepped foot in the moon and that's a fact.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:09 am to saintsfan1977
You don't think NASA knew what the mission was?
Conspiracy as dogma isn't healthy. Find Jesus.
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No man has ever stepped foot in the moon and that's a fact.
Conspiracy as dogma isn't healthy. Find Jesus.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:14 am to saintsfan1977
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No man has ever stepped foot in the moon and that's a fact.
What proven facts can you state that support your conclusion?
I'm genuinely curious how you've come to know this as an indisputable fact.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:58 am to ThuperThumpin
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Its going to suck if fast spreading virus that has fatality rate of say 5-15% really does hit in this generation and we need to act fast to contain it. No one will believe the warnings.
If one ever exists - it will be man made and it will be our own fault.
Nothing in nature (illness) is going to destroy 10% of the earths population.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:02 pm to MemphisGuy
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It's not hatred... it's just that the people who don't think we landed on the moon are stupid, and deserve to be ridiculed and made fun of. But not hatred
Its so cute you believe a little Astronaut, flew in a rocket ship...to the Moon and came home with some rocks...
You know Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Vixen...Comet and Qupid, and Donner and Blitzen...
Here comes Peter Cottontail...hopping down the Bunny Trail...
You are the one who believes in Fairy Tales!!!
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:09 pm to Mr Breeze
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What proven facts can you state that support your conclusion?
I'm genuinely curious how you've come to know this as an indisputable fact.
Russia was light years ahead of us in the space race and NEVER put a man on the moon EVER!!! Not even 50 years later. The fact that we successfully went 6 straight times (manned) is a complete lie. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin flew off earth in a rocket and landed in the Pacific Ocean the same day. All the footage you see was filmed ahead of time incase the rocket blew up.
50 years later we still CAN'T put a man on the moon. It's a known fact that we can't do it today. Infinite more tech and man can't leave orbit.
You can choose to believe this government is telling the truth when it has lied numerous times. Look at the lies it's done just for war. Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin. 9/11 etc. This government will do anything including killing Americans. You think they would actually tell you the truth? Believe NOTHING on TV because it's all Staged!!!
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:24 pm to saintsfan1977
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Believe NOTHING on TV because it's all Staged!!!
I have seen one video on TV I can guarantee wasn't staged!
Literally someone has to believe we were smart enough to get to the Moon and back before we were smart enough to have color TV...because someone told them that in 1st Grade!
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:28 pm to saintsfan1977
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Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin flew off earth in a rocket and landed in the Pacific Ocean the same day. All the footage you see was filmed ahead of time incase the rocket blew up.
In that case there are a few thousand Navy officers and enlisted sailors combined in on the scam as they recovered the capsule, and none of them over half a century past have decided to tell us the truth. That includes the CNO, and CO of WestPac and their staffs who must be notified of a ship's clandestine mission.
I get that you believe nothing the federal government says or does, some with good reason. Nonetheless, nothing you've cited as proof holds up to the even the most casual examination.
Good luck.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:39 pm to saintsfan1977
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The fact that we successfully went 6 straight times (manned) is a complete lie.
You’re right, but not for the reason you think you are.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:47 pm to Mr Breeze
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rather decided for some reason to pull off a sophisticated, complex hoax on the American public, spending billions of dollars in the process that could have been better used elsewhere.
Yeah because the Govt never does this, right.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:49 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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I question everything now.
This.
Our government has established that they will lie about anything if it helps them maintain power or further their narrative.
I’m not saying the moon landing is fake, but I also wouldn’t be shocked if it were.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:53 pm to saintsfan1977
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Believe NOTHING on TV because it's all Staged!!!
I once saw a press conference at Four Seasons Landscaping citing a Kraken was forthcoming. Crazy shite.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:03 pm to Mr Breeze
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In that case there are a few thousand Navy officers and enlisted sailors combined in on the scam as they recovered the capsule, and none of them over half a century past have decided to tell us the truth
Right, because the same green machine that had no problem sending 58k men to their deaths is going to tell them what's really going on. Those sailors had no clue other than go pick up these guys in the ocean. Took some geniuses with years of planning to do that.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:25 pm to shel311
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If so, that's pretty damning...there's no logical reason to intentionally destroy all of this data from the one thing that is considered the greatest feat in mankind.
Well if you think about it from the time it happened it makes a little sense. I have a hard time believing that data doesn't exist anywhere BUT we obviously didn't want the Soviets or others to go to the moon even though we beat them and given the espionage climate at the time the best way to be sure helpful data didn't fall into their hands would be for there to be no data at all
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:35 pm to Porpus
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Minorities can't handle the fact that whitey walked on another planet while they can't even get their Monte Carlos to start reliably.
I laughed so hard at this I spit out my coffee on myself
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:41 pm to Mr Breeze
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nothing you've cited as proof holds up to the even the most casual examination.
Not even "the clinking, clanking, clattering, collection of caliginous junk" that we supposedly landed in?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:21 pm to Asleepinthecove
They view the Neil Armstrong speech as a cryptic puzzle piece, but I have a much different interpretation of that. To me, he's talking about the kids in attendance going further in scientific progress and discovery. The "truth" that he refers to is the truth of the Universe in a broad sense. The mysterious "unknown" in the Universe. The way he puts it in the speech, the unknown, or truth, is covered by "protective layers". The process of discovery involves removing these layers to uncover more truth. It's the process of advancing humanity's knowledge of the Universe.
Other puzzle pieces talked about in the podcast may have more legitimacy. If the 1999 CNN abduction story is true, holy frick.
Other puzzle pieces talked about in the podcast may have more legitimacy. If the 1999 CNN abduction story is true, holy frick.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 4/27/24 at 2:37 pm to Asleepinthecove
As someone said earlier I question everything now. I think the first landing was possibly faked and maybe a later Apollo mission actually landed there.
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