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We played best games the past week...Did the media ask Willie why we changed the lineup?

Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Islandboy777
DAUPHIN ISLAND
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:05 pm
Larry and BI changed up everything today. Trey should have started. He average 25 points last few games. If i was Trey id be pissed.Does it make someone in front offices look bad by not starting BI tonight.

Larry played 30 minutes and look how lagartic we looked

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Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:07 pm to
Willie deserves all the shite for the Larry minutes (as always), but every coach in the history of the NBA would've played and started BI today.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:08 pm to
Keep ranting.

We're about to be passed up next season by the Grizzlies when Morant returns, Houston who finished the season strong at 41-41, and the Spurs with a true generational talent like Wemby.

We're no better than the Kings as we are.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:10 pm to
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Willie deserves all the shite for the Larry minutes (as always), but every coach in the history of the NBA would've played and started BI today.


I get what you’re saying but you coukd have played it off by saying BI is coming off injury so we’ll bring him off the bench in limited minutes. So you basically continue with same lineup and assimilate BI slowly without affecting chemistry.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:12 pm to
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I get what you’re saying but you coukd have played it off by saying BI is coming off injury so we’ll bring him off the bench in limited minutes


Sure, you could've, but no coach would've done that on the last day of the season with that much to play for. If BI was healthy enough to play, no team was going to limit his minutes.
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:13 pm to
Why do we play like total CRAP on offense and defense when we play the fakers






Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72031 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:16 pm to
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Why do we play like total CRAP on offense and defense when we play the fakers



Because despite their age, they play a transition game that we can't keep up with, they are one of the few teams that has a more physical perimeter player (Lebron) than Herb/Dyson/Naji. And then in the halfcourt, they understand better than anyone it seems with how much of a defensive liability Zion is when he's guarding the perimeter, so they don't trigger their set until they get the switch on Zion guarding the ball-handler at the top.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:17 pm to
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If BI was healthy enough to play, no team was going to limit his minutes.


I think you do. These little things matter. Chemistry and roles matter. It takes time for players coming off injury to hit their stride. And yes BI is a good player but again there was a way to do this without messing with the starting lineup and the flow this team had. Just throwing him and Nance in there playing heavy minutes and asking them to play well after missing ganes is asking for a lot. Although Nance shouldn’t be included in this convo because he just sucks.
Posted by Islandboy777
DAUPHIN ISLAND
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:19 pm to
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So you basically continue with same lineup and assimilate BI slowly without affecting chemistry.


You are correct!! He was healthy enough for Sacramento. You let him back slowly in the 2nd half of that game . Why disrupt the chemistry you had before today. Trey spaces the floor better than BI.

Bring BI in against the other teams 2nd unit
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72031 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:20 pm to
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I think you do. These little things matter. Chemistry and roles matter


Very easy to say all this in retrospect.

We were going to lose today regardless, so in reality, it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't thing, considering we are the fanbase that raises hell everytime Zion and BI miss time – hell, we're still not happy Zion sat out the Spurs game. So if BI was cleared to play the final game of the season and we limited his minutes and lost by a similar score today, we're still bitching that Willie didn't play BI enough and that Griff needs to stop being a beta bitch when it comes to handling player injuries.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:24 pm to
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We were going to lose today regardless, so in reality, it's a damned if you, damned if you don't thing, considering we are the fanbase that raises hell everytime Zion and BI miss time – hell, we're still not happy Zion sat out the Spurs game.


The argument isn’t about what we think how this game would have played out. Its about internally how Willie shoild have approached his game with BI coming back to give us best chance of winning.

You’re just projecting what people would bitch about. To me I think the game is more competitive if we were more strategic how we played BI and I dont know about other fans but I wouldn’t bitch about his minutes since the team was playing its best basketball in the last 3 games without him.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72031 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Its about internally how Willie shoild have approached his game with BI coming back to give us best chance of winning.


I don't think that's fair to Willie though, considering every coach would've started BI today, meaning the point you're making is to hold him to a standard beyond the best coaches of all-time.

And to be clear again, this is only about starting BI. Willie is an idiot for tying his dick to Nance.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9311 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:31 pm to
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considering every coach would've started BI today, meaning the point you're making is to hold him to a standard beyond the best coaches of all-time.


Look to be fair- Im not hating on Willie that he started BI- I get it. But that being said I don’t agree every coach would have made that decision especially with BI missing basically a month coming off injury. You can’t expect him to be his best and risk that he isn’t in the most important game of the season.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:32 pm to
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Its about internally how Willie shoild have approached his game with BI coming back


This is stupid. BI is clearly one of our 2 best players and we were dominant when we had both him and Zion healthy. We shite the bed today, but starting BI is not top 10 on the reasons why.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72031 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:35 pm to
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But that being said I don’t agree every coach would have made that decision especially with BI missing basically a month coming off injury.



History says otherwise.

Go look at all the month-long injuries to a team's best player and find me an example of one where they came off the bench in their first game back. It just doesn't happen.

If one of your best players is cleared to play with no minutes restrictions, every coach is going to have that player back to playing his regular minutes.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9311 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:39 pm to
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but starting BI is not top 10 on the reasons why.


Yes BI is a starter but the guy has missed a month of basketball. Starting him and expecting him to play at peak level coming off injury while screwing with all the other players rotational minutes was a reason we lost this game. Not the biggest but it was a reason. Again not hating on Willie completely on this issue but there could have been a better way instead of waiting till game 82 and throwing him in there.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9311 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:40 pm to
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Go look at all the month-long injuries to a team's best player


He’s not our best player and this is where we disagree.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
72031 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:40 pm to
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He’s not our best player and this is where we disagree.


He's one of them.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
9311 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:43 pm to
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He's one of them.


A debate can be had and is ongoing whether its better to have more minutes for CJ/Trey than BI especially in regards to winning and specifically fit. Again BI is a better player than those two but I dont think its that simple- throw BI back in there and we’ll win.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30169 posts
Posted on 4/14/24 at 7:43 pm to
BI starting was fine, we hung with LA decently in the first quarter.

2nd and 3rd q we got absolutely blasted. We don't have an answer for AD. He truly is the perfect 4 in modern nba
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