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re: Arizona law change. Major ?.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote:That's how it was in 1864. Social conservatives: we need to go back to our sexual standards of the past 1864 age of consent: O rly? Social conservatives: NOT THAT FAR BACK. NOOOOO
You realize life expectancy in the U.S. in in 1864 was 39. Essentially half of what it is today.
You basically had to start having kids in your mid teens in those days to have a realistic good chance of raising them to adulthood.
To act like that wasn’t a different time and place in 1864 is disingenuous-also nobody is saying it was “better” back then. Life in general in 1864 had a “plethora” of vicious factors that made life absolutely brutal compared to what we consider good quality of life today.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 8:14 am to bigbowe80
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You realize life expectancy in the U.S. in in 1864 was 39. Essentially half of what it is today.
You basically had to start having kids in your mid teens in those days to have a realistic good chance of raising them to adulthood.
To act like that wasn’t a different time and place in 1864 is disingenuous
I don't think you realize how much you agued my points for me.
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dalso nobody is saying it was “better” back then. Life in general in 1864 had a “plethora” of vicious factors that made life absolutely brutal compared to what we consider good quality of life today.
Then what is the basis of social conservatism?
What society/values are we conserving, and why?
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