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re: Yesterday, the FBI showed up at the home of a Trump supporter in California. Video in link
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's not
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Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:22 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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So you’re just trying to conflate, confuse, and obfuscate things. I guess that’s what I suspected.
No. I'm pointing out hypocrisy in the "back the blue" crowd.
They are worried about sounding like BLM so they try to limit their criticism of LEO to the feds only b/c it's an accepted position within their perceived in group.
Just look at the near violent reactions ITT to simply admitting both federal and state/local LEO are corrupt, power-hungry organizations who trample on our rights.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So you’re just trying to conflate, confuse, and obfuscate things. I guess that’s what I suspected.
No. I'm pointing out hypocrisy in the "back the blue" crowd.
No, youre not. You just think you are.
Its ok to be wrong sometimes.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:23 pm to lazlodawg
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This is the entirety of your rebuttal? Answer the questions honestly you fraud.
Ironic you say this after dodging this simple question
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Did they break the law? Yes or no?
You first (I won't get emotional and call you a fraud).
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Instead of approaching a topic fairly You said that, not me
Yes. It was in reference to you trying to set a faulty premise when beginning a discussion.
In this case your faulty premise was that because feds imprison fewer individuals than states they are therefore less of a threat.
I mocked this as being over simplistic. And I pointed out that it’s normal for you to attempt to argue from these faulty premises.
I never said your position on all law enforcement was unfair.
I certainly didn’t state my position as you did. You inferred all of that because of your emotion. You were certain that I did.
Even now, when I pointed out that your representation of my position was wrong, you didn’t admit that. Instead you are snipped a one line sentence of me using the word unfair and tried to continue the argument.
It’s pure emotion. You don’t argue/discuss in an attempt to come to the truth. You do it to prove a predetermined position.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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No. I'm pointing out hypocrisy in the "back the blue" crowd.
But that only really applies if you establish we are talking about similarly situated "samples," which you admit you can' t really do - at this juncture at lest.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:33 pm to moneyg
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In this case your faulty premise was that because feds imprison fewer individuals than states they are therefore less of a threat.
Basic math says they are.
You're exponentially more likely to run into local/state LEO than a fed. When was the last time you saw a fed in your daily life? when was the last time you saw a local or state LEO?
Hell, I haven't left my house today yet and I have seen an LEO driving around. I went walking on the boardwalk yesterday and saw TWO different LCPD vehicles patrolling.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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But that only really applies if you establish we are talking about similarly situated "samples," which you admit you can' t really do
That sort of similarity in cohort is not possible with any comparison. The "feds are the only evil side" raged when I said it wasn't political. I've yet to see them make comparisons based on that level of equality in population, but they're hyper-confident about it.
That was only one example of the comparison, also. I used others (like Constitutional power. population size of LEO, daily interaction, number of instances of illegality, etc.).
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That sort of similarity in cohort is not possible with any comparison.
I mean, do YOU have a position that one is more based on a group predisposition versus clear bias in enforcement?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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do YOU have a position that one is more based on a group predisposition versus clear bias in enforcement?
There is data on disproportionate policing for similar illegal behaviors like smoking weed, etc., if that's what you're asking for.
The left has a whole section of sociology for disproportionate policing rates for black Americans. The same alleged bias/LEO behavior, generally, is involved with the alleged disproportionate policing/prosecution of MAGA. One reason I bring up the leftist rhetoric they rely on, but only in this specific instance (again, to show the hypocrisy).
Again, my position is that there isn't an inherent characteristic of the over-policed populations leading to bias OTHER than being outside of the LEO-prosecutorial clique. I'm not actually taking the position that blacks are over-prosecuted due to their political affiliations, race, etc., and I reject similar arguments from the opposite side of that in/out dynamic (MAGA Patriots, specifically on J6)
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
And this is why I stand by my conflate, confuse, and obfuscate point. 
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:46 pm to Y.A. Tittle
What is conflating, confusing, or obfuscating about this?
I did edit to fix some grammatical errors created by copying and pasting, so you may not have seen the final form.
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my position is that there isn't an inherent characteristic of the over-policed populations leading to bias OTHER than being outside of the LEO-prosecutorial clique. I'm not actually taking the position that blacks are over-prosecuted due to their political affiliations, race, etc., and I reject similar arguments from the opposite side of that in/out dynamic (MAGA Patriots, specifically on J6)
I did edit to fix some grammatical errors created by copying and pasting, so you may not have seen the final form.
This post was edited on 4/12/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:And blacks being arrested, convicted and jailed in black controlled cities is racist equivalency because. . . ?
There are literally exponentially more local/state LEOs and states have more expansive policing powers, Constitutionally.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
You changed/edited a lot.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Just look at the near violent reactions ITT to simply admitting both federal and state/local LEO are corrupt, power-hungry organizations who trample on our rights.
If only that was what you did.
But its not.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:51 pm to hogcard1964
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You changed/edited a lot.
For the record, none of that was/is my issue here.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:51 pm to blueboy
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And blacks being arrested, convicted and jailed in black controlled cities is racist equivalency because. . . ?
The question is if they commit more crimes or not.
Once we establish that it's OK to look at people who commit crimes as having no outside excuse for facing prosecution, we focus on more targeted examples: Trump, J6ers, etc.
The best part about this rhetorical digression is that once we clearly establish our criteria is only breaking the law, it removes whataboutism from the discussion entirely.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:52 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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conflate, confuse, and obfuscate
Aggy Hank left his mark on young SFP.
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The question is if they commit more crimes or not.
They do
Who's questioning that?
Posted on 4/12/24 at 1:54 pm to hogcard1964
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They do
Who's questioning that?
I don't think anybody is.
The issue is people who don't question that aren't applying the same standards elsewhere.
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