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re: Bill would let state pay parents up to $15,000 to send kids to private school

Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:53 am to
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Or you could kick out the shite students out of regular public school into an alternative route and make public school viable again.

dated a girl from the niagara falls, canada area once. I dont know if it was just their school or the whole province but she told me they gave students the option to go either a "university" route where they would take algebra 2, physics, AP courses, etc or a "college/career" route where they would take more hands on/life skill focused classes. I feel like this is a much better system for schools to adopt. Trying to push college on a bunch of kids that dont want to go and have no business going to college is kills any chance at forward momentum academically because of the resources and time youre having to spend to get those lower level kids there.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:59 am to
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I dont know if it was just their school or the whole province but she told me they gave students the option to go either a "university" route where they would take algebra 2, physics, AP courses, etc or a "college/career" route where they would take more hands on/life skill focused classes


It’s what most of the developed world has adopted for their education system. They separate along different pathways pretty early in life. Often by middle school you know if you’re on the university route or not.

We have a completely different outlook on education in the United States. We believe at “everyone should be able to go to college” and push every student towards the university route.

More and more school districts are starting to wake up and add additional routes. My brothers school has welding, mechanics, banking, and a few other routes in addition to the college prep route.

It’ll never get to the Japanese or German or South Korean route.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31820 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:17 am to
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dated a girl from the niagara falls, canada area once. I dont know if it was just their school or the whole province but she told me they gave students the option to go either a "university" route where they would take algebra 2, physics, AP courses, etc or a "college/career" route where they would take more hands on/life skill focused classes. I feel like this is a much better system for schools to adopt. Trying to push college on a bunch of kids that dont want to go and have no business going to college is kills any chance at forward momentum academically because of the resources and time youre having to spend to get those lower level kids there.



we have that here in Louisiana. dunno why yall act like we dont.

requiring basic algebra and geometry and financial math is not "forcing college"....its basic education that most smart kids could finish by 9th grade if given the chance.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:29 am to
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dated a girl from the niagara falls, canada area once. I dont know if it was just their school or the whole province but she told me they gave students the option to go either a "university" route where they would take algebra 2, physics, AP courses, etc or a "college/career" route where they would take more hands on/life skill focused classes. I feel like this is a much better system for schools to adopt. Trying to push college on a bunch of kids that dont want to go and have no business going to college is kills any chance at forward momentum academically because of the resources and time youre having to spend to get those lower level kids there.


We have that in Ga. You have to pass specific classes that have an End of Course test and then you can become an Option B student that is dual enrolled at a trade or technical school after your sophomore year
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:07 pm to
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I dont know if it was just their school or the whole province but she told me they gave students the option to go either a "university" route where they would take algebra 2, physics, AP courses, etc or a "college/career" route where they would take more hands on/life skill focused classes. I feel like this is a much better system for schools to adopt. Trying to push college on a bunch of kids that dont want to go and have no business going to college is kills any chance at forward momentum academically because of the resources and time youre having to spend to get those lower level kids there.


Chalmette HS does a lot of this. There is a huge workshop with top of the line tools for kids to learn woodworking and other trades. There is a huge kitchen classroom for kids to learn to be a chef and run a restaurant. There are a ton of opportunities to cross-train with Nunez Community College to learn additional trades, how to work in a plant, etc.

But those things take investment, and they take partnerships in the community, and too many public schools don't have either of those.
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