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re: I quit doing cardio

Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by DeoreDX
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:21 pm to
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VO2 max training like jogging is the least important


I think some people just misunderstand the reason elite endurance athlete Zone2 train and forget it's part of a polarized training regime where you also have to do maximal efforts in the other 20% of your training. Most of us are not elite endurance athletes. You can stimulate mitochondrial bio genesis at any cardio zone level. You get more stimulus-response at higher effort levels per unit time. But efforts levels above Zone 3 leads to increased fatigue and the need for more recovery time. For endurance athletes total volume of training is everything. High intensity training and the required recovery limited total volume. While Zone 2 training allows for an almost unlimited training volume. If you only get 4-5 hours of cardio a week Zone2/polarized training is probably not the right thing for you to maximize cardio benefit. HIIT is probably a better fit in this scenario. But HIIT increases fatigue and might interfere with strength training. And for those of us over the hill there are cardiac risks running at high heart rates. Steps are a pretty meaningless metric. Time and heart rate are what should be targeted. If you can elevate your heart rate into zone 2-3 and maintain it there during your lifting routine you can probably kill two birds with one stone. That's the basis of the rucking using increased weight to increase heart rate during a normal walk pace.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:52 pm to
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I think some people just misunderstand the reason elite endurance athlete Zone2 train and forget it's part of a polarized training regime where you also have to do maximal efforts in the other 20% of your training.



DING!


Once you get over 20 miles per week, zone 2 is your friend. I can run 6 miles in zone 2 and it feels like I barely did anything. No fatigue. None of the aches and pains of a max effort. It's been a game changer for me being able to build mileage and keep from being injured. One reason I haven't been in my long run group in so long is they all run WAY too fast. No one wants to do the 11-12 min miles.
Posted by NewOrleansBlend
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/5/24 at 3:52 pm to
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I think some people just misunderstand the reason elite endurance athlete Zone2 train and forget it's part of a polarized training regime where you also have to do maximal efforts in the other 20% of your training.


The reason elite endurance athletes do high intensity training is because they are training for a race and have to train for speed. They arent training for health. If you’re not racing, then you don’t need to worry about speed and you shouldn’t care what a professional athlete’s training program looks like.

If you’re exercising for health, zone 2 causes virtually zero fatigue, which encourages people to exercise longer and new people to being willing to start and stick with it. It allows you to be fresh and injury free for the much needed strength training portion of the health recipe. So even if per minute zone 3/4/5 is “better”, in the long run the easiness of zone 2 will keep you in it longer and provide more net benefit IMO

If you’re training for a race, add speed work for the 6-8 weeks prior but it’s doesn’t need to be always in your program
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 4:44 pm
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