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Delta vs AirFrance vs KLM question/opinions
Posted on 3/31/24 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/31/24 at 11:52 am
Saw some really cheap options going to Europe in December and a few of the flights going over are on either AF or KLM.
What's the TBs thoughts on either one and if it would be a good change up from flying DL? Delta was very good for us last year flying to / from FCO.
Also, considering the AF option as one of the flights is on an A350.
Looking to fly into LHR then out of CDG or AMS as part of a little multi-city option.
TIA
ETA: Home base Airport for me is MSP, but some connections out of ORD or JFK have the AF or KLM flight over to Europe as part of the options
What's the TBs thoughts on either one and if it would be a good change up from flying DL? Delta was very good for us last year flying to / from FCO.
Also, considering the AF option as one of the flights is on an A350.
Looking to fly into LHR then out of CDG or AMS as part of a little multi-city option.
TIA
ETA: Home base Airport for me is MSP, but some connections out of ORD or JFK have the AF or KLM flight over to Europe as part of the options
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 11:58 am
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Posted on 3/31/24 at 3:30 pm to SpartyGator
I’ve never flown Delta long haul business but I prefer KLM to Air France.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 5:19 pm to SpartyGator
KLM is solid, never flown AF.
As for multi-city tour Paris vs Amsterdam may be a matter of personal taste but when it comes to AMS vs. CDG there’s a clear winner and loser, and really they’re on opposite ends of the spectrum as far as effectively managed user-friendly airports.
Just saw this part, MSP isn’t home base for me (AMS is) but my parents live in Colorado so whenever I fly back to the States to see them I often fly AMS > MSP (and vice versa) to connect to DEN (as that is one city not directly served by AMS as far as I know) so I can attest it seems to be a well covered route from Schiphol.
That said because of the close alliance with Delta, my personal experience over here booking flights through KLM, 9 out of 10 times the Transatlantic haul to-and-from Schiphol is operated by Delta for whatever that’s worth.
As for multi-city tour Paris vs Amsterdam may be a matter of personal taste but when it comes to AMS vs. CDG there’s a clear winner and loser, and really they’re on opposite ends of the spectrum as far as effectively managed user-friendly airports.
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Home base Airport for me is MSP
Just saw this part, MSP isn’t home base for me (AMS is) but my parents live in Colorado so whenever I fly back to the States to see them I often fly AMS > MSP (and vice versa) to connect to DEN (as that is one city not directly served by AMS as far as I know) so I can attest it seems to be a well covered route from Schiphol.
That said because of the close alliance with Delta, my personal experience over here booking flights through KLM, 9 out of 10 times the Transatlantic haul to-and-from Schiphol is operated by Delta for whatever that’s worth.
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 3/31/24 at 7:51 pm to SpartyGator
I flew Air France in business class to Paris last August and it was fine.
Posted on 3/31/24 at 9:10 pm to SpartyGator
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business class to Paris last August and it was fine.
Fine and business class are not supposed to be in the same sentence.
Can you fly direct on the way back? You listed connecting airports strongly subject to winter weather, in December.
The A350 is, in my experience, inferior to the 787, and even the 777-2. I flew it on Singapore, and was just, meh. In premium economy, the armrests were fixed. I couldn't lay down, but the people in economy could move armrests and lay down (fifth freedom flight to MAN.) If it's A350 vs a non 777/787, sure.
One thing you may want to check is there are different earning rates for miles depending on who you book with vs. what metal you're flying on. For instance, UA codeshares with LH on IAH-FRA. If I book the LH flight number, on UA metal, I earn a different amount of miles than if I book the same flight on UA. Try using this.
ETA: European airlines are likely to feed you far more alcohol than US airlines if you ask.
This post was edited on 3/31/24 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/1/24 at 4:52 am to SpartyGator
I am in France now. We flew Delta and the European portion of the flight was operated by Air France. It was fine.
Posted on 4/1/24 at 2:05 pm to SpartyGator
Business Class?
1. Delta
2. KLM
3. Air France
Comfort, food, service, reliability are better with Delta over the other two for your intended routes.
If you fly MSP (my personal favorite international hub in the US) -- Delta is the way to go.
If not business class, go cheapest ticket and shortest travel time. Nothing else matters.
ETA: I have flown all 3 airlines numerous times over the past 24 months for travel to Asia-Pac and Middle East regions. Sometimes my criteria are simply "Shortest Business class travel time", depending on my schedule and mood.
1. Delta
2. KLM
3. Air France
Comfort, food, service, reliability are better with Delta over the other two for your intended routes.
If you fly MSP (my personal favorite international hub in the US) -- Delta is the way to go.
If not business class, go cheapest ticket and shortest travel time. Nothing else matters.
ETA: I have flown all 3 airlines numerous times over the past 24 months for travel to Asia-Pac and Middle East regions. Sometimes my criteria are simply "Shortest Business class travel time", depending on my schedule and mood.
This post was edited on 4/1/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:01 am to SpartyGator
Af and KLM are both fine products
Posted on 4/7/24 at 9:00 pm to SpartyGator
KLM
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