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re: How does Trump’s half billon dollar bond in NY not violate the 8th amendment?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:45 am to RobbBobb
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:45 am to RobbBobb
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And if you cant post the bond, isnt that the very definition of 'excessive fine'?
That is the judgment itself, and that's what's being appealed.
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Its not like the founding fathers were idiots. They know govts would begin using this as a tactic at some point
The founders would not have had a problem with this. Their interpretation of the 8th Amendment was that it only applied to the federal government and did not apply to state action.
I think the excessive fines portion of the 8A may not have been incorporated to the states until 2019.
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 12:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That is the judgment itself, and that's what's being appealed.
But he cant get an appeal, until he pays up
Oh sure, he can still appeal, but his assets will be sold (at their intentionally devalued price). He essentially loses, even if he wins the appeal. All because he cant afford the bond that was excessively applied
If he wins the case, he still loses the current value of his assets. The state only has to return his fine, plus maybe costs. But he'll have to sue for the lost assets. Which was forced, only because of the excessive bond. 8th amendment
You'll get there eventually, with help from this reminder. The OP is entitled:
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How does Trump’s half billion dollar bond in NY not violate the 8th amendment?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The founders would not have had a problem with this.
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I think the excessive fines portion of the 8A may not have been incorporated to the states until 2019.
So it applies ….
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