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re: 32 Hour Work Week
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:51 am to tigerfoot
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:51 am to tigerfoot
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So you ignore the measurables that are all favorable to the company and the worker.
There's nothing to ignore, mensa. I might agree with their assessment, I might not. The point is that I can make vague things like "wellness" and "standard of living" mean whatever I want depending on what I value. Hence, they're not objective metrics by definition.
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Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:54 am to 4cubbies
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4cubbies
You're a liar, showing disdain for hard working people is exactly what you're doing.
I work hard so I don't have to live among trash like you
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:56 am to 4cubbies
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It is one of the most unsurprising things imaginable that someone like you would view people who understands there is more to life than working with disdain
No. Responsible people with children work hard to ensure they can provide for them without being a burden to society and taking welfare.
Women have benefitted from men doing this for centuries and now you complain?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:57 am to Flats
quote:Yet you ignored productivity, retention and profitability...all measurables and with controls in the US for comparison. Leaving the US should be a requirement for all US citizens.
The point is that I can make vague things like "wellness" and "standard of living" mean whatever I want depending on what I value. Hence, they're not objective metrics by definition.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:58 am to SlidellCajun
Is there anything more on brand for Bernie and his allies then attempting to mandate a production decrease during a time of high inflationary pressure?
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 9:59 am to FredBear
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people who work hard to improve their lives
Overwork and you have no life, so what’s to improve if all you do is work?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:00 am to tigerfoot
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Yet you ignored productivity, retention and profitability
Humans havent increased productivity, tech has.
The worker benefitted more than employer.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:01 am to P2K
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Overwork and you have no life, so what’s to improve if all you do is work?
I can easily tell who was born into an easy life.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:02 am to SlidellCajun
Just a bleepin' lazy Marxist.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:02 am to tigerfoot
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So your fear is that you will be having to work for the hours you are paid for? Not be able to surf the web or text your buddies all day? Or you cant shite for 30 minutes? At least you are honest.
My job is really laid back, I’m in sales. I’m not chained to a desk and I’m paid based on productivity already. My hours are not 8-5.
Why does this have to be a mandatory government driven policy? If this truly were increasing productivity like people are claiming it has done in Europe, why would American companies not be adopting it already to increase productivity?
Reminds me a lot of the “women make 72 cents on the dollar that men make” claims. If that were true companies would only hire women and immediately be 28% more profitable.
I’m generally against anything crazy socialists who have never had a job in their life propose. Then I work backwards from there.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Then why do companies report higher profitability?
The worker benefitted more than employer.
quote:ok, great. Water is wet.
Humans havent increased productivity, tech has.
Companies with US and European operations report greater productivity in the Euro operation. I would assume the technology is the same.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:07 am to tigerfoot
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Then why do companies report higher profitability?
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Economies of scale and investment in tech.
200 years ago you had 1,000 men with shovels to build 5 miles of road. Now you have a dozen men, half of whom ride air conditioned machines.
Employers investing in technology increased profit and efficiency, workers havent increased in productivity as our bodies and minds have limits.
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For any period of time, the level of labor productivity is determined by two broad factors: capital equipment and applied technical efficiency.
Labor productivity refers to how efficient workers are in generating products and profits for s firm.
That increase comes from investment, not workers. So, expect fewer workers and more technology in the future as Humans purposely try to put themselves out of work.
This post was edited on 3/15/24 at 10:13 am
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:17 am to the808bass
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And if you make the work week 32 hours, no one will work 32.
I’ll guarantee the productivity will be exactly the same.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:20 am to Padme
The sabbath is on Saturday. Also, we don't live under the Mosaic Law any more
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:22 am to FredBear
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showing disdain for hard working people is exactly what you're doing.
This is what you desperately NEED to believe, so you won’t have to actually consider someone else’s perspective. Your identity hinges on “knowing” that devoting your existence to work is the noble way to live.
It’s not.
You assume I don’t work hard because you can’t fathom that a hard worker would think it’s silly to brag about working free overtime. That doesn’t make me lazy, it makes the people bragging about working free overtime chumps. I make sure I am compensated for my time and you have a problem with that. Why?
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I work hard so I don't have to live among trash like you
If enjoying hobbies and spending time with my family makes me trash in your eyes,
I work hard so I can enjoy my hobbies and spending time with my loved ones. Sooooo trashy.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:24 am to 4cubbies
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This is what you desperately NEED to believe, so you won’t have to actually consider someone else’s perspective.
Like bashing people with a work ethic?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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No. Responsible people with children work hard to ensure they can provide for them without being a burden to society and taking welfare.
Women have benefitted from men doing this for centuries and now you complain?
Can you quote my complaint?
You’re lying again. What’s it like to have no integrity whatsoever?
You just bitch and moan all day on here. Such a hard worker! Women are lucky to have you working so hard for us.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:26 am to The Baker
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I’ll guarantee the productivity will be exactly the same.
Most places with shifts will be required to pay more in labor for the same productivity.
Sounds like forced government bullshite that will cost the consumer.
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Like bashing people with a work ethic?
Who did that? Or is your claim that the only people with work ethic brag about working unpaid overtime?
Posted on 3/15/24 at 10:29 am to 4cubbies
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You just bitch and moan all day on here.
It really hurts you to know that White male privilege created this economy you women enjoy with such leisure.
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