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re: Give teachers a raise....Nah.

Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2016 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:14 pm to
The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough. I’m a big believer in free market economics.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4447 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:21 pm to
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The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough.


It tells me that universal compulsory federally controlled education is close to reaching it's logical conclusion (chaotic breakdown) and needs to be scrapped.

See, I'm an even bigger believer in free market economics.

And how someone could possibly think that a program as socialist as mass, government controlled and forced education could successfully follow free market principles indefinitely is a bit of a puzzle to me.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 10:24 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6571 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 10:38 pm to
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number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining


You didn't quote a source for this, which means it's probably bullshite.

But you would know it didn't matter, if you'd been around education students. They're not experts in anything, but graduating in education.

If you want to get to the free market side, we should examine why I couldn't teach IT in a Louisiana School, having 15 years of experience, unless I didn't get paid for a year, working for free. Teachers don't want competition, from anywhere.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
363 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:16 am to
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The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough. I’m a big believer in free market economics.


This. College costs have increased so much that the cost of a teaching degree has exceeded the ROI of going into teaching as a career. In my school district, you’re making $48k salary out the gate as a teacher.

The push for higher wages for non degree jobs (fast food, warehousing, etc) has started to really squeeze jobs like teachers.

Why pay a minimum 6 figures for a 4 year degree for a job that pays $24/hr out the gate when you can start working for Amazon at $20/hr in my area?
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2311 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:11 am to
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The fact that the number of students pursuing a degree in education is rapidly declining tells me their compensation isn’t enough. I’m a big believer in free market economics.



With short and cheap alternative certification programs, a degree in education does not make financial sense, even if you want to become a teacher. An education degree limits your career path (as much as any specific degree does since many people work outside of their degree) and many teachers end up leaving the field within the first 5 years.

Get a STEM or business degree, then do a quick teacher certification program if you want to teach. If you decide teaching is not for you, you've got a much more marketable degree to fall back on.
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