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re: After Trump is elected and everything doesn't magically cost what it did in 2019

Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
2795 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:42 pm to
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Guess you’ve changed my mind. Voting for Biden now. Thanks!



My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior. Cost of living is jacked up in every OCED/first world country on earth. The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out, but somehow Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30490 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:45 pm to
You’re the only one making the particular assertion that you’re also lambasting.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6311 posts
Posted on 3/1/24 at 11:47 pm to
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Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.


Link?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14922 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:27 am to
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gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior. Cost of living is jacked up in every OCED/first world country on earth. The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out, but somehow Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.


Well the dumbest mind on earth came up with the current policy.

Let's think on it...

The country is coming out of covid. There is a huge pent up demand for things. Because of policies during covid, people have money they are willing to spend. You know there is going to be inflation so what do you do? Yes, you pass a 1.7 trillion dollar spending plan to pour gasoline on the fire. The American rescue plan was nothing but fire and obviously a reward for people who got him elected.

Does a potato stop there? No! He passes a 1 trillion dollar additional bill. Genius.

Everyone knew they're was going to be short term inflation after covid. But these hurt the country.

I mean opening the border might have been slightly expected, but biden does stupid with gusts. Instead of allowing in people we need our want in an orderly fashion, he allows literally every moron and criminal in who can get here as well. Likely to the tune of 2.5 million young men a year. Ok not all young men, but the demographics are heavily weighted towards that. Having 7.5 or more million people will cause increased cost of living in a lot of places as well. And biden gives them all free shite.

Not to mention the foreign policy disasters he had had from the middle east to Ukraine to his spectacular failure in Afghanistan. Let me ask a series question. Had he made a single good foreign policy decision?

In a bigger sense, not just foreign policy but anywhere, what decision had he made that is correct?

Do you honestly think any of those spending bills were a good idea at the time? Of course not. Do you think his foreign policy is good? Only if you are a moron. Do you think his domestic energy policy is good? Do you think his border policy is good?

Only if you are a potato. How about the weaponization of the doj and the obvious ridiculous unequal justice system?

I mean lord the gibberish you have posted so far is a total waste of time. Does anyone think you can go back to the old prices? Not unless you have a disaster. But you can actually adopt policies to curb inflation. This perhaps allowing wages to grow faster than inflation like we saw not that long ago.

So there is good policy and there is bad policy. I predicted everything that was going to happen if biden got in office. Higher energy prices. High inflation. Increase in crime. Border wide open. Disasters in the middle east and Ukraine. Unequal justice. I mean he literally said what he was going to do and one had to be a moron not to know the implications.

So it's not that trump is going to make everything all unicorns and rainbows. As Obama said, never underestimate bidens ability to frick everything up. And he really has. What we hope is instead of policy ignoring reality, he actually adopted policy based on reality instead of ideals.

Will that be a magic bullet to make the world back to 2019 when there were no wars, prices were good and border was closed and crime was good? Nope. But it will be a start.

Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15102 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:57 am to
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My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior.



Then why are you stumping for left wing politicians like they are saviors? Maybe a little less childish trolling and more honest reflection would serve you well. Think about it
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48354 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 6:58 am to
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The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out


It’s not a mystery. The US has massively overprinted its currency in the last two decades.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3184 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 8:30 am to
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My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior. Cost of living is jacked up in every OCED/first world country on earth. The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out, but somehow Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.


This is what you people don’t get: we don’t view Trump as a savior, but rather as just a man. Trump is just a man.

We believe in the America First movement, and support anyone who champions that movement’s principles.

It’s not us who have an obsession with Trump lol.

Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
52026 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior. Cost of living is jacked up in every OCED/first world country on earth. The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out, but somehow Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.


Being thought of as political saviors is how politicians position themselves, by default. "My idea will work, my opponent's will not," is the very foundation of trying to create the belief of choice in the voter's mind.

The problem, as you point out, is that there are so many people who would rather believe in a political savior (my guess is just because it requires less work, so they can focus on whatever else in their life which they see as having a more direct impact on them). This happens on both sides of the aisle (the vehemence between Ron & Don supporters is a prime example).

Out of the two most likely candidates, Biden & Trump, Trump has proven to have a far better grasp on economics.

Another aspect of this is that the economic issues we're seeing have been a long time in coming. Much of the world depends on the USD for varying things, far more so than every other currency combined (the USD is still used as the primary reserve currency by something like 58% or so). A lot of these issues come from Congress and their continued overspending (see also: baseline budgeting) which devalues the Dollar (thus causing more inflation).

That said, the best we can hope for with Trump is if he can push through various policies which will get inflation back down to 0% long enough for wages to balance back out. It won't be by the snap of any President's fingers, but the probability that this can happen increases tremendously when there's a President who actually understands economics and market forces because he's spent a lifetime in that sector rather than in government.
Posted by Magyarok92
Member since Feb 2024
218 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:08 am to
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My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior.


This is 100% true. Washington is finished. If you wanna be involved in politics do it locally that’s the only place you can make changes
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
4034 posts
Posted on 3/2/24 at 9:17 am to
No one saying he’s gonna fix prices to prior to 2020 but he sure the hell can stop the fricking hemorrhaging. Unlike the present administration who only intends to make it worse.
This post was edited on 3/2/24 at 9:18 am
Posted by mjfrog93
Member since Aug 2018
1092 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 3:34 am to
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My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior. Cost of living is jacked up in every OCED/first world country on earth. The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out, but somehow Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.


The goal is to destroy the Federal Reserve, the fiat currency. It's already dead. We're just playing out the rest of the game. Restart, and get a US dollar reassigned based on actual wealth value. Then the inflation escalation will end. Forget whether Trump sees this through in his lifetime, we have to rip the band-aid off and reset our economy, else, in a year or two, we'll burn our dollars for heat like the Germans did in the 20th century.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
1000 posts
Posted on 3/3/24 at 11:57 pm to
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can't figure it out


I guarantee you it's been figured out six ways to Sunday already, but the real answers aren't too friendly
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49158 posts
Posted on 3/4/24 at 5:26 am to
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The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out


Printing money, you're welcome
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