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THR Article: How Marvel Is Quietly Retooling Amid Superhero Fatigue

Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:22 am
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:22 am
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These public-facing moves come as studio boss Kevin Feige recalibrates the creative direction behind the scenes. Early in February, the company completed reshoots for Agatha: Darkhold Diaries, the WandaVision spinoff starring Kathryn Hahn that is expected to hit Disney+ this fall. The company usually budgets five days of reshoots into the schedule, but the studio completed the work in just one, fueling a sunny outlook around the show internally, according to sources associated with the series.

The studio also quietly hired Eric Pearson to polish the script for Fantastic Four, which will shoot this summer in London. Pearson is a company stalwart who worked on Thor: Ragnarok and Black Widow and has a reputation for taking projects over the finish line. The stakes for that movie are high, as the studio is still searching for characters and actors who can carry its universe forward after the exits of Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans.

Marvel also hired Joanna Calo, the showrunner of acclaimed FX series The Bear, to work on the script for Thunderbolts, The Hollywood Reporter has learned. The film will begin shooting in March in Atlanta. Her hiring adds a flair of prestige to the project, which stars Florence Pugh and — according to a source who has read previous drafts of the script — centers on villains and antiheroes going on a mission that was supposed to end with their deaths.

Marvel is also cleaning up the creative mess left in the wake of Jonathan Majors, the once-rising actor cast to play the lynchpin villain role in the next Avengers movies but who in December was found guilty of reckless assault in the third degree and harassment in a Manhattan court after a domestic incident with his ex-partner, a movement coach he met while working on Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. Marvel dropped Majors hours after the conviction and is rewriting those movies, which will now either minimize the character or excise him entirely. The first of the new Avengers movies, due out in 2026, was initially titled Avengers: The Kang Dynasty but will be getting a new title to remove the character’s name, though sources say that even before Majors’ conviction, the studio was making moves to minimize the character after Quantumania underperformed, grossing $476 million.


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Execs are not calling it a reboot, not even a soft one, but more of a creative retooling. It’s no secret that since the 2019 Avengers: Endgame, the company was asked to scale up in an unprecedented way to feed its fledgling streaming service, Disney+, then a top priority for Disney, which was in the thick of the streaming wars. First under the direction of Disney CEO Bob Iger and, later, his short-lived successor, Bob Chapek, Marvel expanded into TV series and animation, with the goal of the MCU becoming a place with a seemingly endless procession of year-round releases. It was an ask that proved too unwieldy to sustain.


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Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:28 am to
“Fatigue”
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29119 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:29 am to
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It’s no secret that since the 2019 Avengers: Endgame, the company was asked to scale up in an unprecedented way to feed its fledgling streaming service, Disney+, then a top priority for Disney,


this is where they messed up. they should have popped champagne and slap themselves on the back and say "we did it."

you could have ended up as heroes for pulling it off and making comic book movies cultural events and mainstream while earning everybody billions of dollars and making fans happy.

instead you kept pushing and became the villians.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
14124 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:30 am to
They can spout "superhero fatigue" all they want, when the reality is that it's shitty superheroes that are only there because of the racist arse guidelines they use.

We'd all still be watching if it was anywhere close to Civil War, Infinity War, etc.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 10:32 am
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21846 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:33 am to
It isn't fatigue it is shitty storytelling and arse level writing.

I hope they get their shite together asap because I care about Iconic characters and prefer they aren't constantly rebooted to be woke caricatures of legitimate great heroes.

We didn't need a woman Black Panther, a black women ironman, more shitty Captain Marvel content.

Scrap them, give us good Fantastic Four, X-Men, and Spider-Man movies and the "fatigue" is non existent.

The problem is the Feige is all about Agendas now
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15582 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:43 am to
This doesn't solve the diversity quotas and forcing "marginalized storytelling"
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4915 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 10:51 am to
i, for one, cannot WAIT to watch

***checks notes***

Agatha: Darkhold Diaries, the...

***re-checks notes***

the Wandavision spinoff starring Kathryn Hahn
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:03 am to
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Superhero Fatigue


Does not exist. If anything, I have fatigue of this term.

It’s a buzzword excuse people and studios use to deflect from the real cause: poor scripts and uninteresting stories about characters people don’t have a reason to care about. In short, bad projects that happen to be about superheroes. There are so many viewing options and streaming services now, audiences have no reason to turn out for theaters for poor films. This is what the fatigue is, and it is fixable.

Make good movies of interest and people will always watch them. NWH, The Batman, BP2, GotG3, and even MoM all did well in recent years since Endgame.

Any wonder that the CBMs with critical and audience acclaim continue to make bank? Deadpool and Wolverine just became the most viewed trailer ever, and if the film is as good as its potential, it will likely cross $1B in 2024. The superhero genre is clearly still thriving, we just want good movies and shows. That’s all.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21079 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:04 am to
I mean.... they should have just ignored the Majors stuff. Let's not pretend that Disney is some bastion of morality.

Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
61489 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:18 pm to
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the WandaVision spinoff starring Kathryn Hahn



Yeah, a "PERFECT" choice.

What audience is marvel trying to attract? To What audience does Kathryn Hahn appeal? Single left wing women in their 30s? She's a 50 year old woman that's most notable as a quirky side character in bigger movies and projects. How could she possibly appeal to anyone other than older white women who DESPERATELY want males to stop liking younger attractive women?


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Marvel also hired Joanna Calo, the showrunner of acclaimed FX series The Bear, to work on the script for Thunderbolts,



Another woman writer.


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Her hiring adds a flair of prestige to the project, which stars Florence Pugh and — according to a source who has read previous drafts of the script — centers on villains and antiheroes going on a mission that was supposed to end with their deaths.



More woman on woman Marvel.


Are women and girls flocking to this content yet? Maybe if they put out more wishcasting articles a miracle will occur.


I can sum up this article: "How can Disney tell people they're changing direction without REALLY changing direction?"


Disney is changing nothing. Diversity and diversity writers will continue to put out diversity stories with progressive talking points underlying the movie.





This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48551 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:23 pm to
Disney continues to be dishonest about its problems and will continue to make bombs because of it.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35798 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:27 pm to
Dumping Brie Larson would be a start.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66602 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:47 am to
i would like to see a really good Hulk stand alone movie.
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
1872 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:10 pm to
There is no such thing as “superhero fatigue” it’s just “bad movie fatigue” …. You can make a million movies from a franchise, and if they’re all good, magically people will go see them.
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