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re: Annual Official LA HS Baseball Season-long Thread
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:46 am to tigerfoot
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:46 am to tigerfoot
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So, there have never been additional taxes added to the taxpayer to pay for services provided, in this case non essential services?
If you’re asking how schools get funded each year - I suggest you do your own research.
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:47 am to MikeHoncho47
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Wonder if Glenn will put "ourselves" in the opponent blank.
The WM coach said on the radio this morning that he’ll probably do it again. I found it funny last year how the Barbe coach apologized after the WM coach sent him multiple lineup cards showing WM did the same thing with multiple opponents, not just Barbe.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:50 am to BlackJack02
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Like I said, no dog in the fight, my team stinks. However, I do know earlier in this thread you said your connection to barbe was bringing your kids to games and that was it. Now we have evolved into you knowing the rosters family history, travel ball history, etc. I hope this isn’t someone on barbe’s staff. That would be a little unbecoming for such a great program.
i know a bunch of the kids in the program as i have been involved in youth baseball in the area for close to a decade now in some form or another. no im not on staff, there are multiple people on this board that know me IRL and can verify that.
as far as the history as far as travel ball....its listed on the players profiles on USSSA and PG
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:50 am to YMCA
you do realize high school athletes in Louisiana can get nil now
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:51 am to YMCA
I still don't agree with doing it on the official lineup card. Dugout chart, sure. But that's just me.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:52 am to YeahYeah
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Look at how the other male sports at those high schools do. Barbe, Sam Houston, and Sulphur are non-existent in football and basketball. Baseball is the only sport the kids in that area grow up playing and is the sport that gets the most resources from the high schools
STM is really the only school in the Lafayette and Lake Charles area that is consistently good in baseball, basketball, and football
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LCCP is good at football and basketball
St Louis has been decent in football on the district level
Barbe, Westlake, Sam Houston are on their way back in football.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:53 am to nicholastiger
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you do realize high school athletes in Louisiana can get nil now
can they?
i mean who is going to actually do that though? what are the rules?
cant imagine many businesses doing that kind of thing. maybe im wrong though.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:53 am to lsu777
WIth a kid the same age as Griffin, we just didnt come across any really good teams from the LC area in the travel ball world. Smash was good at 8s and 9s but went away, none of the Champions teams were ever competitive in Majors, and I am not sure they were even Majors teams, I remember alot of AAA teams. It is just a surprise to me at how good they are when they hit the schools there. Not a knock on the kids or anything of that sort. When you divide 40 plus kids among four top level programs it just seems they woudl have been spanking everyone locally. Maybe the studs went out on national rosters early??
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:54 am to YeahYeah
quote:No, I am wondering how increased costs to educating kids doesnt get paid by the taxpayer. Inceased costs equal increased taxes, period.
If you’re asking how schools get funded each year - I suggest you do your own research.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 11:55 am to tigerfoot
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this case non essential services?
If you’re thinking that way baseball is non essential
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:05 pm to lsu777
Understood… and I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. I don’t think any of the elite programs in any sport are actively recruiting. Maybe to a small extent, but not some crazy amount. It’s always the poverty programs saying “oh so these kids just show up?” Sarcastically. And the answer to that is yes, at some point they do just start showing up.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:06 pm to chalmetteowl
If that is the best argument you have
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:07 pm to tigerfoot
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WIth a kid the same age as Griffin, we just didnt come across any really good teams from the LC area in the travel ball world. Smash was good at 8s and 9s but went away, none of the Champions teams were ever competitive in Majors, and I am not sure they were even Majors teams, I remember alot of AAA teams. It is just a surprise to me at how good they are when they hit the schools there. Not a knock on the kids or anything of that sort. When you divide 40 plus kids among four top level programs it just seems they woudl have been spanking everyone locally. Maybe the studs went out on national rosters early??
the studs in that class did go to national teams early and the sophomore studs mainly played for traction and teams like that. now the junior class played for that southpaw team, i think the first one, that ended up being very very good.
so for a while after bullet baseball went away about when most of these kids were 11 or so, they bounced around alot beause there was no more elite team from the area. LA Athletes was for a while but that fell apart too.
now Luccini is coming on the seen. The youngest Cecchini, Gavin, started the brand and they make uniforms, gloves, batting gloves and teams took that name. A lot of the players that are going to go to barbe seem to be drifting toward that 1 org starting with the current 13u kids. but a lot of kids are still spread out. I know of studs playing for traction, gold culture, teams from Lafayette, Beaumont etc
I have posted this before, but
i have noticed that the kids that are in the swla tend to peak later & the travel teams are not as good. I think part of that is teams from this area dont play nearly as much ball as the teams from some other areas. The kids mainly train year around, start lifting at really young ages, and play lots of other sports in the fall. most teams around here do not play more than 1 or 2 fall tournaments and about 10-12 spring (late Feb-mid june)
also the kids start playing against the HS kids in summer ball in 7th grade and in some cases, like griffin, at 12.
Seems parents in the LC area are taking a long term approach than other areas where teams are playing 1000+ games.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:11 pm to BlackJack02
quote:I dont care if they do recruit, as long as the kids are legally playing, I dont care how or when they decided to attend the school they are going to. We are open enrollment, it took ASH more than a couple years of being the best FB program in our area to start seeing kids angling to go there versus other programs. You see in now. But they are sitting out a year as required by LHSAA. That is their choice. If we can have a break thru year in baseball, you will see the same thing there I would imagine, the problem is that Pineville, Tioga, and ASH are about on the same level historically in baseball. Add in Menard with a good program and you just see the talent get divided up quite a bit. Between TIoga, ASH, and Pineville you had a ton of soph starting for each program, and although they are talented you just wont compete with more mature players. Yes, there are Freshmen and soph that are ready, but you cant rely on that as the bedrock of a program and get over the hump.
and I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. I don’t think any of the elite programs in any sport are actively recruiting. Maybe to a small extent, but not some crazy amount. It’s always the poverty programs saying “oh so these kids just show up?” Sarcastically. And the answer to that is yes, at some point they do just start showing up.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:13 pm to BlackJack02
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Understood… and I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said. I don’t think any of the elite programs in any sport are actively recruiting. Maybe to a small extent, but not some crazy amount. It’s always the poverty programs saying “oh so these kids just show up?” Sarcastically. And the answer to that is yes, at some point they do just start showing up.
pretty much. barbe and sam houston doesnt have to recruit, neither do the other programs
il tell a story....the year (2019) Barbe beat Sam Houston in the finals, random guy walks up to a friend of mine and ask what he knows about the two programs....buddy tells him and ask why....guy says they are from east texas area and he has a kid that is really good and they are moving. The guy said he was trying to figure out where they wanted to buy a house as he worked remote so didnt matter where he lived for work. Sam houston nor barbe were recruiting the kid, didnt even know who he was
was told kid ended up at sam houston. So yea some times the kids just show up. But 99% of the time the kids are just home grown. Everyone starting for barbe has been in the area since they were 12. Littleton moved from sulphur for HS.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:13 pm to tigerfoot
Fair enough. I graduated Zachary in 02 so I’ve got to closely watch the revamp of the baseball, basketball and football program. The kids do show up. I kind of always chuckle thinking what it would be like to see Brewerton hitting the recruiting trail. Silly.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:15 pm to lsu777
quote:Having a consistent development plan and good leadership at the top of each program, no matter the choice for the player, is always a good thing. Many players/parents panic early because they think they have to find the exact right path and bounce around. If someone could sit them down and focus them on developing and the long game, it would be so much better for the area.
Seems parents in the LC area are taking a long term approach than other areas where teams are playing 1000+ games.
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Heck, a bunch of ASH kids are going to play together this summer in the 2D high school events. This will be the first year. That makes us many years behind, but it is a step in the correct direction.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:16 pm to tigerfoot
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I dont care if they do recruit, as long as the kids are legally playing, I dont care how or when they decided to attend the school they are going to. We are open enrollment, it took ASH more than a couple years of being the best FB program in our area to start seeing kids angling to go there versus other programs. You see in now. But they are sitting out a year as required by LHSAA. That is their choice. If we can have a break thru year in baseball, you will see the same thing there I would imagine, the problem is that Pineville, Tioga, and ASH are about on the same level historically in baseball. Add in Menard with a good program and you just see the talent get divided up quite a bit. Between TIoga, ASH, and Pineville you had a ton of soph starting for each program, and although they are talented you just wont compete with more mature players. Yes, there are Freshmen and soph that are ready, but you cant rely on that as the bedrock of a program and get over the hump.
in your case, imo
your coach needs to find the really good travel programs in your area(cenla knights and barnes academy traditionally) and start hosting the coaches for clinics, hosting the kids for camps and get someone on staff to start giving the kids lessons. off the teams free entry to games, have them as bat boys, etc etc
if you are not historically great or have amazing facilities , that is the only way you are really going to get kids excited to want to attend that school. You have to get them to have some type of connection to the school. Have to show them they can come and be the backbone of the program and how you offer something more than the other schools in the area.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:17 pm to BlackJack02
Sometimes it takes a number of things. Dad got a job transfer when I was in high school. Ended up coming down to 5 schools. One was crossed off for work commute. Another for school's location. Another for weaker athletic department. It came down to a good public baseball program and a good private baseball program. Both ended up winning state that year (2008).
Parents elected not to spend $16k for me and my brother to attend the private school. Worked out fine.
Parents elected not to spend $16k for me and my brother to attend the private school. Worked out fine.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:19 pm to lsu777
Taking lazy mans way out here, but when is the WM Barbe game tonight?
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