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re: Matt McMahon has to be the most frustrated coach among the SEC

Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:38 am to
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
1939 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:38 am to
McMahon has benched Cook a number of times for doing exactly what you are talking about. His team does compete and play hard. They are a few plays away from sweeping TAM and beating GA on the road. They have competed with the top teams in the league only to lose it in the last qtr of the games which is when the talent has taken over. McMahon is a good coach but not a great coach. Wade was the same. A good coach but not great. What set him apart was his ability to recruit. We’ll see if McMahon can sign his 2 big recruits next year and keep the core players coming back. Add a few portal players and next year should be a sign of whether he will be here for a while are be the beginning of the end. 1st year was a throw away so let’s see where he ends up this year .
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
108378 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:52 am to
No more excuses or moral victories for next season, McMahon needs to have a winning team that fans want to watch.
LSU bigwigs also need to help out MBB by officially announcing a new PMAC or a complete remodel, otherwise we’ll continue to be a bad or just an ok team at best.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21153 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:18 am to
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McMahon is a good coach but not a great coach. Wade was the same. A good coach but not great. What set him apart was his ability to recruit.


bullshite.

Wade had teams in the top 10 in offensive efficiency and in other years had teams in the top 10 in defensive efficiency, this is a sign of a great coach.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28745 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:25 am to
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1st year was a throw away so let’s see where he ends up this year


I don’t think he will be fired after this season, but the above is a bullshite mindset. Yes, he took the job under adverse circumstances. But by the time he reached November he had a roster EVERYONE who follows college basketball (except chicken-little LSU basketball “fans”) felt would at least be competitive. Not NCAA Tournament caliber. But at least competitive. It wasn’t. At all.

Many on here live in this myopic world where what happened to the LSU roster after Wade was fired was a complete anomaly. The reality is any time a coach is fired now, for whatever reason, the roster undergoes a major upheaval. Some more than others, but that’s now the norm in this transfer era. Fair or unfair, coaches have to adapt.

If McMahon would have had last season a season like he is having now most people would have been ok. Not thrilled, but at least understanding. He didn’t. He had a horrible season that ABSOLUTELY should be part of the evaluation. He’s having an average season thus far. That fact shouldn’t be amplified just because he set the bar for “success” or improvement so low last year.

At some point the excuses have to end. He’s won 6 SEC games in two years! Winning one of the next 3 games where LSU will be a significant underdog would be a GREAT start to turning the evaluation around
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48575 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:37 am to
“They are a few plays away from sweeping TAM and beating GA on the road. “


This is exactly my point, you’re not going to win enough games like these to be successful. Sure you’ll win a couple here and there but you’re never going to be consistent regardless of talent because you don’t do the things I listed well. You don’t have to be talented to take care of the ball or have good possessions and with 5 guys over 6-9, most of them top 100 recruits, for them not to be rebounding is coaching. The lack of these things are either not coached or they’re allowed. Either way it’s a coaching issue.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21456 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:39 am to
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Wade was the same. A good coach but not great. What set him apart was his ability to recruit.


Complete and total bullshite. If you are paying attention to what is going on at McNeese, then not one single person should be able to sit here and say that Wade isn't an absolute top notch college basketball coach.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
957 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:22 am to
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Wade was the same. A good coach but not great. What set him apart was his ability to recruit.


And develop
And scout
And promote his program
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42300 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 11:24 am to
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McMahon has benched Cook a number of times for doing exactly what you are talking about. His team does compete and play hard. They are a few plays away from sweeping TAM and beating GA on the road. They have competed with the top teams in the league only to lose it in the last qtr of the games which is when the talent has taken over. McMahon is a good coach but not a great coach. Wade was the same. A good coach but not great. What set him apart was his ability to recruit. We’ll see if McMahon can sign his 2 big recruits next year and keep the core players coming back. Add a few portal players and next year should be a sign of whether he will be here for a while are be the beginning of the end. 1st year was a throw away so let’s see where he ends up this year .


All of this
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5443 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 5:40 pm to
Yep Next year keeps turning into Next Year, then Next Year
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