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re: How to get husband’s generic mounjaro script filled? Compound formula not legal in LA

Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:31 pm to
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:31 pm to
Ok 777 or other pharmacists here — any thoughts on compounded bio-identical hrt??

straying from topic but I’m IR, post menopausal and 20# appeared with no changes. Hormones (prog/est/test) are all unmeasurable per lab report.

Increasing protein and resistance training going but to but not helping much.

Started compounded bio-identical hrt last week .. I’m skeptical of this but that’s what I was given. It’s pricey for sure. Once that straight or somewhat straight, hopefully balanced hormones and diet/activity will straighten things out weight wise.

IF NOT, I’m not completely opposed to these sgl but the n/v is just not appealing.

Getting older sucks and I’m trying to take care of myself for our kids and grandkids. Hoping to be around and active for some time.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:58 pm to
Received my first shipment of tirz (5 MG red caps). If I want to do 2.5mg/week, I'd reconstitute the 5 mg with 100 units of bac water. Then I'd pull in 2.5mg with the needle and inject? So one vial will last two weeks?
Posted by Uncle JackD
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:08 pm to
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Received my first shipment of tirz (5 MG red caps). If I want to do 2.5mg/week, I'd reconstitute the 5 mg with 100 units of bac water. Then I'd pull in 2.5mg with the needle and inject? So one vial will last two weeks?
Correct. If you recon with 100units, take 50 units for a 2.5mg dose. You don’t necessarily need that much volume though. I’d personally recon with 0.5mL (50 units) and dose 25 units.

Where’d you order from?
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:29 pm to
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Where’d you order from?

Great question! Do you have any links you can share about research peptide testing sites?
Posted by Uncle JackD
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:40 pm to
XCE peptides is my go to
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:41 pm to
to further clarify… those people who may be interested in gray market peptides would be best served with info on valid testing info/sites (as opposed to recommendations on sites to order from).
While those people may appreciate sourcing info, it may be more ethical and appropriate to provide valid 3rd party test site/result info so that one might review and then select one’s own source.
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:48 pm to
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XCE peptides is my go to

Understood and appreciated, and of course their site links to their tests through Jano, but for those of us who don’t know Jano from the man in the moon, its not really a source of truth.
I noticed in other threads youve posted about your insurance coverage for the Tirz offerings, which would indicate that you are experienced with the pharma peptides and not those from the research realm? Correct me if Im wrong
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:51 pm to
Highly support women getting on hrt of needed. A good protocol will help in every aspect of your life, especially you marriage

Weight gain post menopause is usually from lack of Non exercise activity thermogenesis aka neat. In other words you are tired cause your hormones suck arse so you hardly move. I know when my test levels were at 82 all I wanted to do was sleep


But you don’t break laws of thermodynamics you just don’t get nearly the activity you used to. The HRT will help that and so much more
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:55 pm to
Will you can take my word for it Jano is legit. That is only place b you are giving to get peptides tested as the EU labs can’t do it for Americans any longer. Jano has Hoss frick to about 10 years ago but has been stellar other than the one time.

He has prolly tested 1000 blind samples in last 4 years alone and always hits nail on the head


Plus there is a private discord channel that blindly test sites like xce and qsc. You can find Jano on meso-rx
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Will you can take my word for it Jano is legit. That is only place b you are giving to get peptides tested as the EU labs can’t do it for Americans any longer. Jano has Hoss frick to about 10 years ago but has been stellar other than the one time.

Weird. Ive never once questioned 777 and your posts… misspellings and grammar are odd for your posting style. Also, I addressed UncleJackD and then 777 replied on his behalf. Am I reading into this too much? Please tell me youve just been drinking and Im off.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:19 pm to
lol na I’m on my phone. Usually only post during the day and I have grammerly installed on my computer

I use swipe key board on iPhone and have fat fingers and didn’t proof read. Trust me plenty of people know me in real life, I’m not uncle Jack

So yea reading way to much into it
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:27 pm to
Cool and thanks for all you do here, no BS.. you’re a gem. Please just understand apprehension when doing research for my overweight friend who is too fat to do it on his own… I don’t want to feel responsible for showing him research peptides from random chinese sites that are recommended by people who haven’t actually injected them into their own bodies. Dont want my buddy to be a guinea pig for random internet guys.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:32 pm to
I get it for sure. Takes trust and frankly hard to just trust words on the screen for sure. You can send a sample to Jano if you want. Send two, one just water , the other tirz and you can see for yourself.

Is there a reason he didn’t want to do through insurance?

Understand when dealing with medicines 90% plus come from China, the other 10% get the regents from them and do final reactions in USA. All hormones, peptides etc come from China in 99.99% of cases
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Is there a reason he didn’t want to do through insurance?

He is recently unemployed from his fast food job and is also uninsured.
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peptides etc come from China in 99.99% of cases

Agreed, but somehow it seems safer getting a vial of recon fluid from a local storefront clinic vs. a vial of unknown white powder from a random chinese paypal recipient.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:24 am to
quote:

to further clarify… those people who may be interested in gray market peptides would be best served with info on valid testing info/sites (as opposed to recommendations on sites to order from). While those people may appreciate sourcing info, it may be more ethical and appropriate to provide valid 3rd party test site/result info so that one might review and then select one’s own source.
my mistake. I thought you were asking for source info. I felt like shite last night and had taken NyQuil. Like 7 has said, there’s a massive testing group that I’m part of and Jano has proven himself time after time. I have full confidence. Look, It doesn’t matter to me if someone buys China peps or not. They’re more than welcome to pay $1200/month for zep/MJ. Eli Lilly would be more than thrilled to have a few more customers. I’m just trying to help others who may not have insurance coverage for GLPs.


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While those people may appreciate sourcing info, it may be more ethical and appropriate to provide valid 3rd party test site/result info so that one might review and then select one’s own source.
Ethical?? Get off your high horse. No one is forcing anyone to purchase peps from China. I spent hours upon hours reading and researching these things and anyone looking to get into it can do the same if they need further verification. Some asked for sources so gave them. I can provide some more info for those interested but the rest of the homework is up to them. The homework part isn’t for some people, so those should probably seek prescription drugs so the work is all done for them and laid out.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 6:40 am
Posted by Uncle JackD
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 5:27 am to
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noticed in other threads youve posted about your insurance coverage for the Tirz offerings, which would indicate that you are experienced with the pharma peptides and not those from the research realm? Correct me if Im wrong
You’re correct. I am very fortunate and do have coverage for GLP drugs, I have since march. But my BMI is very close to being out of the coverage window so I’m preparing for the next couple of years. There’s also way more to peptides than just GLPs that I’ve bought & used from xce.

You seen knowledgeable about the process, have you used X before? What’s your beef with Jano since he’s a not really a source of truth? Just curious.


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addressed UncleJackD and then 777 replied on his behalf. Am I reading into this too much?
Absolutely 7 has given me excellent advice on GLPs and other peptides in the past and I’ve ran with it. The whole industry is really interesting and something I spend allot of time reading about.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 6:02 am
Posted by Long Ball Larry
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:41 am to
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There’s also way more to peptides than just GLPs that I’ve bought & used from xce.

Thanks man. This is the part I was missing.
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What’s your beef with Jano since he’s a not really a source of truth?

Don’t actually have specific reasons to not believe in his validity, but also dont have any info saying his results are real deal. Its hard to just blindly trust his site for what it is, but maybe thats just me being a skeptic.
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The whole industry is really interesting and something I spend allot of time reading about.

Definitely. Im just getting my feet wet and really appreciate people like you & 777 sharing info!
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:02 am to
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Its hard to just blindly trust his site for what it is, but maybe thats just me being a skeptic.
I gotcha and understand. If you told me 2 years ago that I would be injecting Random vials of China peptides into my stomach, I would’ve suggested you get drug tested and a psych eval But here we are… but after tons of reading and research, I am 100% a firm believer In them as long as you’re getting them tested. We test hundred of vials and there’s still some shite batches from time to time. I’m knocking on 40 and the healthiest I’ve been since probably junior high and these crazy things, along with TRT, have been a major factor.


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Im just getting my feet wet and really appreciate people like you & 777 sharing info!

It’s become a passion of mine so I’m willing to help in any way I can.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 7:03 am
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:40 am to
Any thoughts on compound bio identicals? They’re not fda approved which idk if I’m worried but they’re so dang expensive.

And yes .. for a long time I’ve tried to determine and I lazy or just fatigued. It’s only been a week but I’m hoping that they help with all of the things.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 8:05 am to
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Any thoughts on compound bio identicals? They’re not fda approved which idk if I’m worried but they’re so dang expensive.


i mean all estrogen, prog and test products are bio-identical. not sure if they are ripping you off by throwing that out there or what.

but yea you should be trying to match levels of each for the high end range for your age group to start and then adjust as needed.

testosterone will prolly be the one that needs to be adjusted the most. If your sex drive goes crazy, im talking needing it multiple times a day or you start growing hair aroudn the lips or on the chin, lower the dose....although your husband might not agree with that advice

but in general we want to ramp up to the levels of each that are seen as high end in your age group. if you feel like shite still, add more and go to high end of the age group of say a 30 year old. if thats too much, adjust and find a happy medium. will take 3-6 months to get it dialed in.

understand like TRT for men, HRT for women is really a life long commit. But most women that are your age that kind of go crazy and end up divorced...yea well many times its the hormones.
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