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re: Why do new managers always come in and want to change everything?

Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:34 am to
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
65844 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:34 am to
Nature abhors a vacuum.
Posted by rundmcrun
Member since Jan 2024
300 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:39 am to
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Sometimes old management quits


If the system is working well and management leaves, if higher management doesn't bring someone on with explicit instructions to not rock the boat, that's on them.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
5565 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:44 am to
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Sometimes it’s the result of inexperience, sometimes it’s the result of misguided ambition and ego.


Yep a lot of times new managers are not given proper guidance.

I had a really good mentor when I moved to management. He told me two things to remember.

1. You manage people, not problems. If you manage the people correctly then the problems will be addressed. If you try to manage the problems, then you won’t get them fixed and you will have personnel issues - making your job infinitely harder.

2. It’s not your job to know everything. It’s your job to recognize when you don’t know something, and who/where you can gather that information .


Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6706 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:45 am to
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The less stress you put on your boss the more you are valued. Being a productive low maintenance subordinate will get you the promotion if you have a good boss.


100% agree with this, but…

quote:

One of the most horrible things I saw was when it was apparent that there would be a layoff for a high ranking position that is hard to get/keep, one of the dudes threw the other dude (with the same position) under the bus and Wrote a letter to all of their bosses describing why he should not be the one getting let go if they decide to layoff. He cited budgets, statistics, what the other guy has failed on, everything. A ton of research was done to write this (all on company time). The other guy was let go.


Gotta look alive out there.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
5565 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:50 am to
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Being a productive low maintenance subordinate will get you the promotion if you have a good boss.


This is actually a pitfall that a lot of companies fall into. The highest producers in a company don’t necessarily make the best managers.

In fact, most of the high producers have a set way that they do things that has worked very well for them. If they are too rigid and try to force their way on everyone else, it causes issues.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7827 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:55 am to
I agree. It’s a good idea for managers to get opinions from the people underneath them. They’re the ones neck deep in the muck every day. They know what’s working and what’s not. Many managers feel like that is showing weakness, though.
Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
4361 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:07 am to
I would assume if everything was running smoothly, they wouldn’t be bringing in a new manager.

Or if it was and the top guy just moved on, they would possibly look to hire from within in order to keep things running as normal as possible.
Posted by Shaq4prez
The Deaf Dome
Member since Oct 2021
3504 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:10 am to
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Why do new managers always come in and want to change everything?


because THEY are responsible for YOU. Their success is tied to how they manage. Why would they let their success be dictated by a former employee?

OP, just do you job my guy. If you stay on path, one day you'll be in charge and you can do it any way you want
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
22230 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:13 am to
It really depends on the reason they were hired. I've been hired before to fix a laboratory. It was in shambles with 4 major lawsuits against the blood bank. I spent a year rewriting procedure manuals and instituting valid quality control and decreasing a terrible staff by a third. Raised the lab from a solid F to maybe a C. But the administration couldn't believe hardly anyone in the lab "liked" me. (they now had to work and work right with 33% less fewer people) Within a year I had to leave because two thirds of the crew "didn't like me". Of course, I figured they planned they entire thing. They hired a old guy to just sit in the office, I had done the hard part. But, thats life.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7891 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:25 am to
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Probably because the new manager was brought in specifically to change the status quo.


Exactly. Is this not obvious to the OP?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
33342 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:51 am to
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Most of the time it results from promotions of the previous person



If the previous manager got a promotion and they brought in someone from outside to replace him, that means no one was under that guy that they feel is qualified to replace him. And they probably include the previous manager. So maybe a little change is needed.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
21097 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Why haven't you moved up?


Why haven't you moved out of your mom's basement ?



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